double double dittohttps://twitter.com/indianambb/status/1949832229372195028?s=46
you know I have been wanting more foreign dudes! Love it.
also love that the current staff has no communications or leaks with the hysterics and peegs. Great to be a real program and not a reality tv show.
you know I have been wanting more foreign dudes! Love it.
also love that the current staff has no communications or leaks with the hysterics and peegs. Great to be a real program and not a reality tv show.
Time out Cav: I just listened to the Assembly Call review of this guy and it sounds like we got him and probably the other foreign recruit because of Drew Adams. You can't smear the guys name all over the place and then also be happy about the guys he's responsible for bringing in, right?
There is a lot I agree with Cav on but until Adams does something negative to IUBB as an assistant I'm supporting all the recruiting he can do. Tom Crean made about as many bad talent evaluations as good and a couple of those were foriegn players owning no BB IQ with some affiliation to Adams. But it was Crean's call.
@kkott I am happy for anything at this point not Woody. I haven't seen them play a lick, ill continue smearing until they pan out and I read he is why they came 
@cavanagh Listen to the Assembly Call episode on him. Sounds like international players is primarily Adams' specialty and they mentioned him with both guys we got. It wasn't a surprising hire to anyone and obviously I want to see our team and staff succeed, so I think it's good to acknowledge if he's done something that helps with that.
@kkott Hanner was suppose to help. So was Peter jurkin. Let’s see what happens and if they can play. If he recruited them, I have my doubts.
@cavanagh TBF, before his job was to sell them. Now his job is to buy them. I'm sure car salesmen at KIA can still recognize the difference between their's and Ferrari's, but that still got a job to do.
@beez he still has to judge the talent, that’s where I have my doubts.
@cavanagh You have doubts about his ability to judge talent because you thought he was weird in 4th grade? He doesn't have the authority to add players, and never has. Adding Perea, Jurkin, Priller, etc... rests with TC, period. The Assts job is to evaluate and suggest guys and then get the guys the HC tells him to pursue. If DA was the primary recruiter on any of the above, he did his job.
Hiring him, turned no ones head and if anyone said anything, outside of you, they thought it was a good move and one that made sense. Sounds like he is primarily responsible for getting these 2, so again, he did his job.
@kkott you say it didn’t turn anyone’s head? Like on this message board???? I promise you many people have been talking about how silly it was to bring back the Adams family. They got us suspended and had scholarships taken away. I don’t think everyone but me forgot about that…. I just might be the only one that cares that he hit girls in HS. But I told him I’d take a bat to his head if I’ve ever did it again back then, so might have learned!! That was 20 years ago
Here is a refresher course for you. AI is the shit.
Mark Adams was linked to an NCAA investigation involving Indiana University’s basketball program due to his roles as the founder of A-HOPE (African Hoop Opportunities Providing an Education) and coach of the Indiana Elite AAU team. In 2012, the NCAA ruled that Adams was a booster of IU because he donated $185 to the IU Varsity Club between 1986 and 1992, labeling him a representative of IU’s athletic interests. As a result, benefits he provided to two IU freshmen forwards, Hanner Mosquera-Perea and Peter Jurkin—who lived with Adams as their legal guardian through A-HOPE—were deemed impermissible. These benefits included $9,702 and $6,003, respectively, for plane tickets, meals, housing, a laptop, a cellphone, and clothing, which are typically allowed for a guardian but not for a booster under NCAA rules.
Consequently, Mosquera-Perea and Jurkin were suspended for IU’s first nine games of the 2012-13 season and required to repay $1,590 and $250, respectively, to charities. The NCAA accepted IU’s self-reported case as a secondary violation on October 31, 2012, noting the donations were minimal and occurred over 20 years prior, but still enforced the penalties due to Adams’ booster status. IU faced no further sanctions, but the case highlighted concerns about Adams’ close ties to IU, including his son Drew Adams’ role on IU’s staff from 2009 to 2011 and the involvement of A-HOPE players with Indiana Elite and IU. IU coach Tom Crean, who inherited a program on probation from Kelvin Sampson’s 2008 recruiting violations, emphasized strict compliance and distanced himself from A-HOPE’s operations.
@cavanagh Did you read what you posted? It was ENTIRELY about Mark Adams, except for this: "including his son Drew Adams’ role on IU’s staff from 2009 to 2011". So, basically we know Drew Adams had a Dad and a job: oh the humanity!!!
I don't care about your petty beefs with folks, but my only point is then don't go off on how great it is to get a player that we likely got because of DA.
Hitting a girl in high school is 1000% more concerning than anything in here. And no, I've not seen 1 other person question DA being on staff, but you.
@kkott It definitely turned my head. Also, I think you're probably missing, or not putting enough importance on the advisory role, and how much credence many head coaches give the opinions of people like the Adams family, Academy coaches, highly influential HS coaches, etc... So either the Adams family were knowingly pushing deeply flawed players on to the IU program...or their judgement wasn't sound... either way... IU hiring Drew turned my head.
Since the hiring, reading about how well regarded he was by the Bradley staff... he even won an award or two for young assistant coaches... I've softened my scrutiny a little bit.
And if he is opening a pipeline for good players in that part of Europe, I will completely change my view, I'm sure. Let's see how good Ristic and Amicovic end up being. And how serious the top rated kid that visited recently is about IU.
or not putting enough importance on the advisory role, and how much credence many head coaches give the opinions of people like the Adams family, Academy coaches, highly influential HS coaches, etc… So either the Adams family were knowingly pushing deeply flawed players on to the IU program…or their judgement wasn’t sound… either way… IU hiring Drew turned my head.
Again, how are you tying what Mark Adams did, with our hiring Drew Adams? 1) taking any of those guys (Jurkin, Perea, etc...) is on the HC: aka Tom Crean at the time. If he gives creedence to AAU types like Mark Adams, again, that's on him, and has nothing to do with DA. 2) It was Mark Adams involved, not Drew. You're #2 of folks that have expressed any concern, and you have what I think is a reasonable "let him prove it" attitude. I just thought it was BS for Cav to be lauding us getting guys that were probably attributable solely to DA, and still throwing the guy under the bus.
Here's a piece that I think has pretty decent background and depth and shows the general sentiment regarding DA's hiring. Also, his Dad is still involved with IN Elite, right, and we still chase their players regularly.
@kkott Obviously on Crean. He had a propensity for bringing in projects, especially bigs. He hit on a few, but whiffed on a bunch. Drew worked alongside his dad, closely at times, so the tie ins are natural. Its basically how he got his chance at college coaching.
The Perea/Jurkin recruitments were different. Lots of shadiness, and then many people have the view that the Adams family, Marc and Drew, sold Crean a bill of goods on them. Used car salesman rolling back odometers, hiding duck tape fixes, etc... type of analogies were normal after they got to IU.
It is Crean's responsibility, in the end. But many believe he was lied to, by the Adams Family with players from "The Movement" back then.
As for IE... Adams is still involved.
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