I think IU is safe on that front. I like Gabe, but I'm not sure he could do much against my grade school team.If Gabe Cupps goes off against the Hoosiers on Saturday, I might lose it.
@ge-off Not to defend Cupps really, but he's put in for defense and to foul when they need it. I'm not surprised by that stat. He always seems to play hard and do what the coach asks.
Cupps will bag a couple threes against us. His season 20% on few shots will probably be 2-3 . LOL Just the way that shit seems to go.
Hopefully we bring our A+ game.
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The only people that will be fixated on Cupps will be Indiana fans. He's just another OSU player to our staff and players, none of them were here last year. If anything, playing against Indiana will be more in his head than anyone on our side.
It'll actually be sort of cool to see Cupps. Hope he gets minutes. I usually avoid anything OSU, but did watch a few highlights recently.
If Gabe Cupps goes off against the Hoosiers on Saturday, I might lose it. Some amazing stats, playing in all 29 the Buckeye games, he's scored a total of 44 points while amassing 47 fouls. Wow!
Cupps seems like a nice kid that may well be better suited to play in the MAC. Serves as an example of rankings not matching production. He was an Ohio Mr. Basketball and IU beat out Ohio State, Michigan, and Stanford to sign him out of high school. There are times when these prospect rankings need to be questioned and make little sense.
Contrast Cupps to Nick Martinelli at Northwestern. Martnelli was set to go to Elon but then Northwestern came into the picture. He's gone on to be the top scorer in the Big 10.
Cupps is not very good I was shocked how many thought he was going to come into IU and be a impact player. He was ranked where he was a for a reason. He is probably best suited for a mid major team.
Lunardi has us as one of the last teams in, as of today, playing in the play in game as an 11 seed. Have to think a win over OSU, would push us up, probably 5-6 spots in his pecking order, to a 10 seed, and pretty safely in.
Lunardi is upperhalf of Bracketologists, usually, in terms of accuracy, but usually never near the top. Some have IU higher, many have them lower, right now.
A closely contested loss, would push us to one of Lunardi's first few out, I'm sure. But a win over someone like Penn State, then over the 7 seed in the BTT, if those wins happened, would likely put us back "in", with Lunardi.
Again, he's not the end all be all with these predictions, he's just the most famous one out there. He's usually pretty accurate, overall, though. Enough that referencing him should give a decent, educated guess, view on where IU actually stands, right now.
I believe the following, based off metrics, all the various Bracketologists, the relative soft bubble:
1. Beat OSU and we're in... no matter what happens first round of BTT and/or bid stealer activity. If we were to lose first round, and/or there are a handful of bid stealers, we might scrape by and get a play in game. But if we win that first round game, and/or there aren't over a 1 or 2 bid stealers, an OSU win likely gets us a 10/11 non play in game seed.
2. Win next 3, and we'll push for a 9 seed.
3. Lose against OSU... we'll be "out" for most bracketologists. But what happens around us, and what we do after that game, can still get us back "in". Here's what I think we'd need to do, and what would need to happen.
4. We'd need to win 2 or more BTT games. And we'd need for teams like Miami OH, Gonzaga/St Marys, etc... to win their conference tournaments.
Very long winded way of saying there are many/multiple paths for us to sneak in to this years NCAA tournament. Its not nearly as "zero chance" as many on here are making it out to be. I would guess.
If you put any credence in prediction markets, Kalshi currently has Indiana at a 38% chance of making the round of 64, and the trend is down.
He still had USC in the "Work to Do" category when they were 7-11 (last week). I'm not saying he's wrong, but it's possible he's over-valuing the B1G.Lunardi has us as one of the last teams in, as of today, playing in the play in game as an 11 seed. Have to think a win over OSU, would push us up, probably 5-6 spots in his pecking order, to a 10 seed, and pretty safely in.
Lunardi is upperhalf of Bracketologists, usually, in terms of accuracy, but usually never near the top. Some have IU higher, many have them lower, right now.
A closely contested loss, would push us to one of Lunardi's first few out, I'm sure. But a win over someone like Penn State, then over the 7 seed in the BTT, if those wins happened, would likely put us back "in", with Lunardi.
Again, he's not the end all be all with these predictions, he's just the most famous one out there. He's usually pretty accurate, overall, though. Enough that referencing him should give a decent, educated guess, view on where IU actually stands, right now.
I believe the following, based off metrics, all the various Bracketologists, the relative soft bubble:
1. Beat OSU and we're in... no matter what happens first round of BTT and/or bid stealer activity. If we were to lose first round, and/or there are a handful of bid stealers, we might scrape by and get a play in game. But if we win that first round game, and/or there aren't over a 1 or 2 bid stealers, an OSU win likely gets us a 10/11 non play in game seed.
2. Win next 3, and we'll push for a 9 seed.
3. Lose against OSU... we'll be "out" for most bracketologists. But what happens around us, and what we do after that game, can still get us back "in". Here's what I think we'd need to do, and what would need to happen.
4. We'd need to win 2 or more BTT games. And we'd need for teams like Miami OH, Gonzaga/St Marys, etc... to win their conference tournaments.
Very long winded way of saying there are many/multiple paths for us to sneak in to this years NCAA tournament. Its not nearly as "zero chance" as many on here are making it out to be. I would guess.
I don't think many are giving IU no chance. Hell, even I'm not saying that. I just don't think the Hoosiers are tourney-caliber: 2-10 v. Q1 and 5-12 v. Q1/2 is not impressive. Aside from Purdue, Wisconsin, and UCLA, they haven't beaten anyone. Just my perspective.
I will watch and cheer like hell -Knowing we are not beating OSU tomorrow - just a fact. They are hot right now, sr day, no way IU wins this game.
Lunardi has us as one of the last teams in, as of today, playing in the play in game as an 11 seed. Have to think a win over OSU, would push us up, probably 5-6 spots in his pecking order, to a 10 seed, and pretty safely in.
Lunardi is upperhalf of Bracketologists, usually, in terms of accuracy, but usually never near the top. Some have IU higher, many have them lower, right now.
A closely contested loss, would push us to one of Lunardi's first few out, I'm sure. But a win over someone like Penn State, then over the 7 seed in the BTT, if those wins happened, would likely put us back "in", with Lunardi.
Again, he's not the end all be all with these predictions, he's just the most famous one out there. He's usually pretty accurate, overall, though. Enough that referencing him should give a decent, educated guess, view on where IU actually stands, right now.
I believe the following, based off metrics, all the various Bracketologists, the relative soft bubble:
1. Beat OSU and we're in... no matter what happens first round of BTT and/or bid stealer activity. If we were to lose first round, and/or there are a handful of bid stealers, we might scrape by and get a play in game. But if we win that first round game, and/or there aren't over a 1 or 2 bid stealers, an OSU win likely gets us a 10/11 non play in game seed.
2. Win next 3, and we'll push for a 9 seed.
3. Lose against OSU... we'll be "out" for most bracketologists. But what happens around us, and what we do after that game, can still get us back "in". Here's what I think we'd need to do, and what would need to happen.
4. We'd need to win 2 or more BTT games. And we'd need for teams like Miami OH, Gonzaga/St Marys, etc... to win their conference tournaments.
Very long winded way of saying there are many/multiple paths for us to sneak in to this years NCAA tournament. Its not nearly as "zero chance" as many on here are making it out to be. I would guess.
Basically Ohio State is a MUST WIN period. I see no way we win two in a row in the BTT. History usually repeats itself and we stink in the BTT. A .386 winning percentage in the BTT and made one final in 28 years. I am guessing Mike Davis had 7 or 8 of those 17 wins he had by far the most success in the BTT of any IU coach.
| ndiana | 17–27 | .386 | 0 | 1 | 2001 |
I will watch and cheer like hell -Knowing we are not beating OSU tomorrow - just a fact. They are hot right now, sr day, no way IU wins this game.
The odds of beating Ohio State are far greater than winning two in a row in the BTT imo.
He still had USC in the "Work to Do" category when they were 7-11 (last week). I'm not saying he's wrong, but it's possible he's over-valuing the B1G.Lunardi has us as one of the last teams in, as of today, playing in the play in game as an 11 seed. Have to think a win over OSU, would push us up, probably 5-6 spots in his pecking order, to a 10 seed, and pretty safely in.
Lunardi is upperhalf of Bracketologists, usually, in terms of accuracy, but usually never near the top. Some have IU higher, many have them lower, right now.
A closely contested loss, would push us to one of Lunardi's first few out, I'm sure. But a win over someone like Penn State, then over the 7 seed in the BTT, if those wins happened, would likely put us back "in", with Lunardi.
Again, he's not the end all be all with these predictions, he's just the most famous one out there. He's usually pretty accurate, overall, though. Enough that referencing him should give a decent, educated guess, view on where IU actually stands, right now.
I believe the following, based off metrics, all the various Bracketologists, the relative soft bubble:
1. Beat OSU and we're in... no matter what happens first round of BTT and/or bid stealer activity. If we were to lose first round, and/or there are a handful of bid stealers, we might scrape by and get a play in game. But if we win that first round game, and/or there aren't over a 1 or 2 bid stealers, an OSU win likely gets us a 10/11 non play in game seed.
2. Win next 3, and we'll push for a 9 seed.
3. Lose against OSU... we'll be "out" for most bracketologists. But what happens around us, and what we do after that game, can still get us back "in". Here's what I think we'd need to do, and what would need to happen.
4. We'd need to win 2 or more BTT games. And we'd need for teams like Miami OH, Gonzaga/St Marys, etc... to win their conference tournaments.
Very long winded way of saying there are many/multiple paths for us to sneak in to this years NCAA tournament. Its not nearly as "zero chance" as many on here are making it out to be. I would guess.
I don't think many are giving IU no chance. Hell, even I'm not saying that. I just don't think the Hoosiers are tourney-caliber: 2-10 v. Q1 and 5-12 v. Q1/2 is not impressive. Aside from Purdue, Wisconsin, and UCLA, they haven't beaten anyone. Just my perspective.
The teams around us, though, don't really stand out either. Its not like IU is contending with teams with tons of high calibre wins on their resume. They're all very pedestrian.
Heck, OSU is considered safely in but who have they beat? They're 2-10 in Q1. Those wins are Purdue and Northwestern...
Q2 wins over UCLA and Wisconsin.
If you put any credence in prediction markets, Kalshi currently has Indiana at a 38% chance of making the round of 64, and the trend is down.
That's because almost everyone has us as a big underdog tomorrow...like 25% chance of victory. If we somehow win those odds probably double and go up even more by winning a BTT game.
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