@jackskip23 not sure what you are watching. Starting to believe you aren’t who you say you are. Saban wouldn’t promote Cig. Hes railed against IU for two years.
Dumb and not true. Saban is a great coach and knows football inside and out. Not Saban’s job to promote Cig any more than it is / was to promote Kirby, Kiffin, Sarkesian or anyone else who came through there. Strange that people got offended by Herbstreit last year and Saban this year. Football guys giving football views. Why is that so threatening?
lol. Making an observation about tendencies of a tv personality = being threatened? Got it.🤣
Threatened = Offended. Just don’t understand the thin skin. Thought that was pretty obvious.
Saban didn't pick Indiana for multiple reasons IMO, and it probably had more to do with optics than anything. He couldn't pick Indiana over Bama because his office is next door to Deboer's. And I don't think he could pick the team that beat Bama. He's part of the old guard that couldn't see a bunch of 3-stars beating the 4 and 5-stars. If he did he would've recruited them. Also, it seamed like he was always about to pick Indiana, and then did the opposite. It probably didn't hurt that Saban as likely closer to Cristobal.
The far more likely reason is he thought the teams he picked were going to win rather than optics or office locations or anything else. He just thought they were better, and it’s hard to argue against his logic. I’m glad he was wrong last night, but all of the twisty turny stuff doesn’t make any sense given his expertise as a football coach.
I know I'm going to regret engaging with you, but here goes:
If Saban thought Alabama was better than IU, then it's very easy to argue with his logic. The scoreboard offered a pretty compelling argument against his logic.
Saban didn't even offer a logical explanation. He said he was picking Alabama because they "finally looked like themselves" against Oklahoma. He completely ignored the fact that IU had already beaten two teams that were obviously better than Alabama. He just assumed that, Alabama being Alabama was all it would really take to beat Indiana. Quite illogical, in fact.
Thankfully, the IU players begged to differ.
As a rule, I’ll usually give much greater credibility to the Hall of Fame coach who’s win multiple national championships. It doesn’t make them infallible, but they’re typically quite well informed. I talked to a couple of IU fans today who were focused on what Saban, Finebaum, Wilbon, Kornhizer, Herbstreit, Howard et al had to say today (with the hope that they’d feel humiliated) rather than simply basking in the reality that we won the National Championship. They’re still whining about the perceived indignity suffered because some of them occasionally picked against us. It’s really thin skinned but pretty funny.
Almost as funny as an IU fan being thin skinned about people picking on these tv folks…😉
Saban is a HOF coach and multiple championship winner - that’s a little more than a “tv folk”. LOL
Saban didn't pick Indiana for multiple reasons IMO, and it probably had more to do with optics than anything. He couldn't pick Indiana over Bama because his office is next door to Deboer's. And I don't think he could pick the team that beat Bama. He's part of the old guard that couldn't see a bunch of 3-stars beating the 4 and 5-stars. If he did he would've recruited them. Also, it seamed like he was always about to pick Indiana, and then did the opposite. It probably didn't hurt that Saban as likely closer to Cristobal.
The far more likely reason is he thought the teams he picked were going to win rather than optics or office locations or anything else. He just thought they were better, and it’s hard to argue against his logic. I’m glad he was wrong last night, but all of the twisty turny stuff doesn’t make any sense given his expertise as a football coach.
I know I'm going to regret engaging with you, but here goes:
If Saban thought Alabama was better than IU, then it's very easy to argue with his logic. The scoreboard offered a pretty compelling argument against his logic.
Saban didn't even offer a logical explanation. He said he was picking Alabama because they "finally looked like themselves" against Oklahoma. He completely ignored the fact that IU had already beaten two teams that were obviously better than Alabama. He just assumed that, Alabama being Alabama was all it would really take to beat Indiana. Quite illogical, in fact.
Thankfully, the IU players begged to differ.
As a rule, I’ll usually give much greater credibility to the Hall of Fame coach who’s win multiple national championships. It doesn’t make them infallible, but they’re typically quite well informed. I talked to a couple of IU fans today who were focused on what Saban, Finebaum, Wilbon, Kornhizer, Herbstreit, Howard et al had to say today (with the hope that they’d feel humiliated) rather than simply basking in the reality that we won the National Championship. They’re still whining about the perceived indignity suffered because some of them occasionally picked against us. It’s really thin skinned but pretty funny.
Almost as funny as an IU fan being thin skinned about people picking on these tv folks…😉
Saban is a HOF coach and multiple championship winner - that’s a little more than a “tv folk”. LOL
Just because Saban has won multiple titles, it doesn’t mean he can’t be petty and have an SEC bias.
If the rule you followed, brought you to this, of what use was the rule? - Anton ChigurhAs a rule, I’ll usually give much greater credibility to the Hall of Fame coach who’s win multiple national championships. ...
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GOAT SHITPOSTER
Saban didn't pick Indiana for multiple reasons IMO, and it probably had more to do with optics than anything. He couldn't pick Indiana over Bama because his office is next door to Deboer's. And I don't think he could pick the team that beat Bama. He's part of the old guard that couldn't see a bunch of 3-stars beating the 4 and 5-stars. If he did he would've recruited them. Also, it seamed like he was always about to pick Indiana, and then did the opposite. It probably didn't hurt that Saban as likely closer to Cristobal.
The far more likely reason is he thought the teams he picked were going to win rather than optics or office locations or anything else. He just thought they were better, and it’s hard to argue against his logic. I’m glad he was wrong last night, but all of the twisty turny stuff doesn’t make any sense given his expertise as a football coach.
I know I'm going to regret engaging with you, but here goes:
If Saban thought Alabama was better than IU, then it's very easy to argue with his logic. The scoreboard offered a pretty compelling argument against his logic.
Saban didn't even offer a logical explanation. He said he was picking Alabama because they "finally looked like themselves" against Oklahoma. He completely ignored the fact that IU had already beaten two teams that were obviously better than Alabama. He just assumed that, Alabama being Alabama was all it would really take to beat Indiana. Quite illogical, in fact.
Thankfully, the IU players begged to differ.
As a rule, I’ll usually give much greater credibility to the Hall of Fame coach who’s win multiple national championships. It doesn’t make them infallible, but they’re typically quite well informed. I talked to a couple of IU fans today who were focused on what Saban, Finebaum, Wilbon, Kornhizer, Herbstreit, Howard et al had to say today (with the hope that they’d feel humiliated) rather than simply basking in the reality that we won the National Championship. They’re still whining about the perceived indignity suffered because some of them occasionally picked against us. It’s really thin skinned but pretty funny.
Almost as funny as an IU fan being thin skinned about people picking on these tv folks…😉
Saban is a HOF coach and multiple championship winner - that’s a little more than a “tv folk”. LOL
Just because Saban has won multiple titles, it doesn’t mean he can’t be petty and have an SEC bias.
True, but I’ve seen neither of those from him. I re-watched the Rose Bowl Game Day where he told the story of warning his Bama golfing buddies about how good IU was and to not be complacent. Have never once seen anything to suggest he didn’t play it right down the middle in terms of his views. Same has always been the case with Herbstreit. They’re both highly respected for their knowledge. I realize some fans get really upset with them for both playing favorites (Herbstreit got chased out of Columbus for that mortal sin), but I think they’ve both been on point about IU. Would include Desmond Howard in that, as well. Paul Feinbaum? He never coached, played or pretended to be anything but an SEC guy, so my view of him reflects his perspective.
In the end, their views never once detracted from my enjoyment of the season or made me angry with any of them, but I realize others have a different view.
If the rule you followed, brought you to this, of what use was the rule? - Anton ChigurhAs a rule, I’ll usually give much greater credibility to the Hall of Fame coach who’s win multiple national championships. ...
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It keeps me from drawing crazy conclusions that the refs were intentionally biased against IU, as some have alleged. One of my rules is that I don’t expend a bunch of energy whining about the refs.
I didn't say they were biased against us. Just that they were corrupt and wanted to keep Miami in the game. 🤣
I didn't say they were biased against us. Just that they were corrupt and wanted to keep Miami in the game. 🤣
Have no earthly idea how you could draw that kind of conclusion but I know others share your view.
Occam's razor. The simplest explanation is most likely to be right.
Either incompetance or something else. And since their is no earthly way the officials can be so bad at their job that the way they called the plays bore no resemblance to known football rules or to previously officiated games ... The simple answer is - other motives. 😉
Anyway, I'll take my 100% right, fact based, non-biased account over to the officiating thread and leave this for the humorous media takes that started it.
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I damn sure share the view. Missing all the calls of holding on both sides of the ball is fair and let's the players play physical. I'm accepting of that. The fouls to FM not called were either incompetence, lazy or making personal choices outside the rules. That's what fans(all) bitch most about. Another indication just how weak the NCAA organization is.
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Yea. ORD special. Quoting huge responses arguing something stupid. This place could use some mods — there are good posters but it’s a mess.
No one cares about your rules, or how you assign credibility. This post isn't about you.
Schadenfreude is a thing. It isn't new, it isn't unique to IU.
LMAO at the Copium being consumed by Canes fans
Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan.
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