We have played 10 weeks of college football. 1 week of our opponents losing shouldn't be that much of a drop. Plus if those teams are dealing with a major injury (like lost a starting QB), why would them losing say anything about IU's win earlier in the season when they were a better team?
Nothing more than SEC bias and using BS to explain it away
Probably because Ohio State losing their QB didn't cause them to give up 30 points to USC and 41 at home to Oregon. And Aidan Chiles was healthy when NW lost by 12 to Oregon.We have played 10 weeks of college football. 1 week of our opponents losing shouldn't be that much of a drop. Plus if those teams are dealing with a major injury (like lost a starting QB), why would them losing say anything about IU's win earlier in the season when they were a better team?
Nothing more than SEC bias and using BS to explain it away
@gros-louis To be fair... a healthy Julian Sayin probably helps their defense as well as their offense. IU has benefitted from timing their own QB injury issues, with games against teams with pretty mediocre offenses. The Ohio State game proves our defense is legit, though. USC will be a very different type of test than what we've seen since OSU. If our offense is crappy again, I don't think our defense will be able to keep us in the game this time.
And it didn't happen/didn't matter. That's the whole point. The pundits can flap their jaws until the cows come home. It didn't and doesn't impact the CFP rankings.But lord knows the pundits were trying hard to push out a 1 loss IU for a 3 loss Bama.
Everything is connected, of course. But OSU's offense operated just fine against USC. 260 passing. Over 200 rushing at 4.7ypc. Even on TOs with 1 fumble each. Double the time of possession.@gros-louis To be fair... a healthy Julian Sayin probably helps their defense as well as their offense. IU has benefitted from timing their own QB injury issues, with games against teams with pretty mediocre offenses. The Ohio State game proves our defense is legit, though. USC will be a very different type of test than what we've seen since OSU. If our offense is crappy again, I don't think our defense will be able to keep us in the game this time.
Against Oregon, their running game was atrocious. 2.5ypc Fahey threw for 360 and was much more efficient (36/50). Their defense gave up 400 yards and made Raiola look like a stud.
And it didn't happen/didn't matter. That's the whole point. The pundits can flap their jaws until the cows come home. It didn't and doesn't impact the CFP rankings.But lord knows the pundits were trying hard to push out a 1 loss IU for a 3 loss Bama.
No, they didn't complain that we made the CFP, until after were safely in. The issue we have been discussing is this whining started once we made it and it hit fever pitch once we lost to Notre Dame. Since then, it's been SEC bias through the gills starting in the offseason and ramping up as we go through the early part. Once that happens and you have a number next to your name, people hype up those ranked teams. Now THAT is the whole point.
Is crazy town. I guess all the talking heads last week paid off. This will give the team a lot to think about. We need to shellack USC.
It doesn’t matter
UCLA is benefiting from Indiana's 2024 run. Yes they are good. But sceptics aren't howling that no way could they have gone from poor to really good in one season. If Indiana hadn't done it we'd hear from UCLA doubters, even when the record and eye test tell you otherwise.
We sure heard it. And it even led to Cig saying that team never got the credit it deserved. Yeah, we lost to the top two teams in the nation, on their fields. But until Indiana won it all and shut people up I was still hearing how we were 'smashed' and 'frauds' and we were barely even ranked to start the next (title) year.
I don't dispute any of that. My point is merely that THOSE PEOPLE DON'T MATTER when it comes to the CFP rankings.And it didn't happen/didn't matter. That's the whole point. The pundits can flap their jaws until the cows come home. It didn't and doesn't impact the CFP rankings.But lord knows the pundits were trying hard to push out a 1 loss IU for a 3 loss Bama.
No, they didn't complain that we made the CFP, until after were safely in. The issue we have been discussing is this whining started once we made it and it hit fever pitch once we lost to Notre Dame. Since then, it's been SEC bias through the gills starting in the offseason and ramping up as we go through the early part. Once that happens and you have a number next to your name, people hype up those ranked teams. Now THAT is the whole point.
And just for the sake of the conversation, here is the makeup of the committee this year. Pretty balanced affiliations, imo.
- Troy Dannen — Athletic director, Nebraska (Big Ten)
- Mark Dantonio — Former head coach, Cincinnati and Michigan State
- Doug Gillin — Athletic director, Appalachian State (Sun Belt)
- Mark Harlan — Athletic director, Utah (Big 12)
- Ivan Maisel — Former sportswriter, including for Sports Illustrated, ESPN, and On3
- Gus Malzahn — Former head coach, Arkansas State, Auburn, and UCF
- Chris Massaro — Athletic director, Middle Tennessee (Conference USA)
- Randall McDaniel — Former All-American offensive lineman, Arizona State
- Mike Riley — Former head coach, Oregon State and Nebraska
- Jeff Tedford — Former head coach, California and Fresno State
- Wesley Walls — Former All-American tight end, Ole Miss
- Carla Williams — Athletic director, Virginia (ACC)
- Hunter Yurachek — Committee chair; athletic director, Arkansas (SEC)
Probably because Ohio State losing their QB didn't cause them to give up 30 points to USC and 41 at home to Oregon. And Aidan Chiles was healthy when NW lost by 12 to Oregon.We have played 10 weeks of college football. 1 week of our opponents losing shouldn't be that much of a drop. Plus if those teams are dealing with a major injury (like lost a starting QB), why would them losing say anything about IU's win earlier in the season when they were a better team?
Nothing more than SEC bias and using BS to explain it away
If the offense isn't moving the ball then defense is on the field longer and often with bad field position.
So yes, a bad QB can hurt the defense
Of course that's true. Did you look at the stats for their last two games? Moving the ball and having time of possession weren't factors. In fact, they had the ball 2x as long as USC. But their defense sucked ass. In both games.Probably because Ohio State losing their QB didn't cause them to give up 30 points to USC and 41 at home to Oregon. And Aidan Chiles was healthy when NW lost by 12 to Oregon.We have played 10 weeks of college football. 1 week of our opponents losing shouldn't be that much of a drop. Plus if those teams are dealing with a major injury (like lost a starting QB), why would them losing say anything about IU's win earlier in the season when they were a better team?
Nothing more than SEC bias and using BS to explain it away
If the offense isn't moving the ball then defense is on the field longer and often with bad field position.
So yes, a bad QB can hurt the defense
SVP - 'the company line' 😎
"The losses STICK to you..!
Then goes on to quickly gloss over Indiana only having one loss... And UCLA with zero being behind an SEC 2 loss team, which was the original subject before he said losses stick to you.
No, Scott, apparently they don't stick to some favored teams.
Of course that's true. Did you look at the stats for their last two games? Moving the ball and having time of possession weren't factors. In fact, they had the ball 2x as long as USC. But their defense sucked ass. In both games.Probably because Ohio State losing their QB didn't cause them to give up 30 points to USC and 41 at home to Oregon. And Aidan Chiles was healthy when NW lost by 12 to Oregon.We have played 10 weeks of college football. 1 week of our opponents losing shouldn't be that much of a drop. Plus if those teams are dealing with a major injury (like lost a starting QB), why would them losing say anything about IU's win earlier in the season when they were a better team?
Nothing more than SEC bias and using BS to explain it away
If the offense isn't moving the ball then defense is on the field longer and often with bad field position.
So yes, a bad QB can hurt the defense
No, I don't usually pay attention to other teams other than obviously heard sayin was out.
Are any OSU starters on defense out?
Frustrating loss because we beat ourselves that game
This team just hasn’t looked right all season, in particular the offense and special teams. I don’t know if it is a hangover from winning a national title or if the injuries and players missing time during spring ball have had a negative impact, but things are not clicking.