Was KG trolling Cig with those TOs at the end?
Cig does talk. “Break their will” etc.
I don't think Ferentz was trolling Cig, They made IU put the ball in danger on 4th down. It was literally their only chance to have any shot at a miracle. With that said I do think Cig has a target on him with is media persona.
Was KG trolling Cig with those TOs at the end?
Cig does talk. “Break their will” etc.
I don't think Ferentz was trolling Cig, They made IU put the ball in danger on 4th down. It was literally their only chance to have any shot at a miracle. With that said I do think Cig has a target on him with is media persona.
He definitely does and I don't blame them. I think media takes his comments as him talking negatively about other teams as opposed to his intention to be speaking positive about his team. He's never focused on the other team which is why he is successful.
As a prime example, his google me quote still has fans saying he is being selfish making it about him. Under the correct context, he was asked how he would get recruits here and the answer on how HE is going to get recruits here was to say "google me, i win." So it was a question to him about him and he responded as such.
That being said, he seemed to enjoy the brash bravado and leaned into it as the season wore on. His comments about whoopin tookus (UCLA, top 25 teams before ND game) or even last weeks comment about Iowa being tougher than the last opponent, regardless of his intent, at this point people see him as someone farming the media for sound bites.
Right. Most of what Cig said was to wake up our fans, players, and potential recruits. The bulk of that happened last year.
This year he's toned it down because he doesn't need to say as much. The stuff that has stood out has ended up being true. The SEC scheduling comment -- well they went to nine games. We did break Illinois will. Iowa was harder. He's a straightforward guy who does not care what people think and it's great.
In context, he isn't close to someone like Lane who trolls on twitter all the time. He doesn't throat slash on the sideline like Lanning (I don't really care about this, just saying) or get into it with the other coach like Bert did with Shane (that was funny by the way). He doesn't get drunk like Sark or have half his team get reckless driving charges like Kirby or cheat like Harbaugh.
At the end of the day, Cig isn't that wild in the world of CFB. Most people just don't like that IU is competitive now and no longer a doormat. CFB is a zero sum game and if people don't like him they can f off.
Cig did not seem to mind at all in the post game interviews. He was furious on the sidelines and yelling at the refs, but I think it was because he thought the refs were blowing the whistle to early. If it had been a two-score game, then I could see being pissed off about it. But it was a one score game and the ball was already on the Iowa side of the field.... crazy shit can happen, don't blame Iowa for trying.
@keanu-reeves That's what I took away from it. He was furious at the officials all game and that was the cherry on top.
@keanu-reeves That's what I took away from it. He was furious at the officials all game and that was the cherry on top.
I agree. I still don't understand why they were blowing the whistle when Mendoza hadn't yet taken a knee. Is the idea that you can't get into a victory formation and then run a play? ha Gosh forbid OSU did that and ran in a TD instead.
@yothn I believe it goes back to when that Pitt QB fake slid and ran for a touchdown. Now, I have never seen it called that quickly, but the idea is that when you start to go down, you're giving yourself up and the play is over. I think they were a little too quick on the whistle, but I understand the rule (if I am correct).
@big-red-cb-v-2-0 There was no need, and I didn't think it was smart to even risk it. I just think Cig was pissed about those "victory delay" whistles and said, "I'll show you!". If anything will get it changed, it might be a bunch of bettors pissed off and complaining about it. I didn't like it because the only thing that can get you beaten is a TD and you have the QB running to the goal line with a defender in pursuit. We've seen balls get knocked loose before. It was a hyper long-shot, but he could have run out the clock without the safety. Think the clock hit 0 when he was at the 20.
Maybe if this rule is a problem and can't step backward to kill time or it's seen as 'giving yourself up', then take slightly more risk and use the long snapper so the QB can step forward into a max protection pocket.
Rarely occurs. Not often does the other team have so many time outs that a couple seconds per play is so crucial.
@yothn I believe it goes back to when that Pitt QB fake slid and ran for a touchdown. Now, I have never seen it called that quickly, but the idea is that when you start to go down, you're giving yourself up and the play is over. I think they were a little too quick on the whistle, but I understand the rule (if I am correct).
It happened on back-to-back plays which is what threw me off. Is the end point that they should've notified the refs of their plan before the plays?
@keanu-reeves Completely agree. As long as you have a chance, you play every second that is on the clock. I don't blame Iowa at all. They had the timeouts and a chance to get the ball back. Very remote chance, but a chance. If IU wanted to run out the clock in that situation they needed to actually run a play.
@kkott I was thinking the same. But then I thought about how disorienting it might have been for Mendoza to time how long he was running. The most realistic, worst thing he could have done is run backwards again and fall down a fraction of a second too early. That would have given Iowa the ball within very realistic scoring distance. The whole thing was weird.
Either Cig just doesn't know what the rules are...or the refs interpreted the rule somehow differently from what the rules are... or there isn't really a specific rule at all...
One thing for certain... no shade towards Ferentz for using the timeouts there. I've never understood why teams don't use all their timeouts available to them in those situations. I know fumbles are a long shot, but they happen.
@ams66 Can't decide what the actual safest play there is for IU. I think doing what they did, likely is. Any play that requires a 2nd exchange of the ball, or any sort of run with Mendoza... has to be more risky than playing out the clock how they did.
I actually think Iowa let a handful of seconds go on a couple of the plays, by not getting the timeouts in immediately when Mendoza's knee touched.
I believe the possession started at 23 seconds. Even at 5 seconds per snap, the'd have had 7-8 seconds left for the last play, instead of 3.
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