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BradStevens
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https://www.cato.org/blog/indictments-invasions-constitutions-crumbling-guardrails


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Topic starter Posted : 01/04/2026 1:39 am
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Posted by: @bradstevens

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so Trump's DOJ better have a top-notch trial lawyer ready to go.

Not a great track record on that.

I know. That's what I'm worried about. 

 

Legit worry. There's also I think a very real concern that the holes in this case will run far deeper than simply the caliber of the team.

 


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Posted : 01/04/2026 1:41 am
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Posted by: @bradstevens

https://www.cato.org/blog/indictments-invasions-constitutions-crumbling-guardrails

There was a "who" in there that should have been a "whom" but otherwise, great article.

 


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Posted : 01/04/2026 1:44 am
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Plans to capture Maduro were leaked to WaPo and NYT before it happened…both decided not to publish to protect troops


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Posted : 01/04/2026 8:20 am
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Posted by: @mrhighlife

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Posted by: @ribbont

@shooter 

 

Well, if that's what a Trump war looks like, then I'm all for it.  Over in a few hours, no casualties, the oppressed cheering in the streets, and (hopefully) a halt to the flow of drugs.  

 

Has to be one of the most successful military operations 

 

what was the operation?  just to grab Maduro? His people are still in power and they are pissed. Not that they can do anything but it means we probably have to move ground troops in and occupy. 

 

If the only object was to grab Maduro, we don't need to do shit. We have him. We can just abandon Venezuela to their future.

If there is also the object of making Trump look like a victorious conqueror, then, well...

 

The object is to flip Venezuela away from China and Russia. I'm guessing we don't stop meddling until we get the govt. we can at least tolerate, which means one that will rid itself of Chinese influence. This is more a "This is our hemisphere, bitch" move than anything.   

All I can say at this point is, they better have the goods on the narco-terrorism charges or we are going to lose a hell of a lot of credibility and goodwill with the rest of the world.  I wonder who Maduro hires as his defense counsel? He's going to have his choice of the best of the best, so Trump's DOJ better have a top-notch trial lawyer ready to go. A flunky or lackey would be embarrassed in court if they don't have an air tight case.  

 

 

China calling for Maduro and his wife to be immediately released 

 

 

 


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Posted : 01/04/2026 8:27 am
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@shooter 

 

Well, if that's what a Trump war looks like, then I'm all for it.  Over in a few hours, no casualties, the oppressed cheering in the streets, and (hopefully) a halt to the flow of drugs.  

 

Has to be one of the most successful military operations 

 

what was the operation?  just to grab Maduro? His people are still in power and they are pissed. Not that they can do anything but it means we probably have to move ground troops in and occupy. 

 

 

Brad explained it in his post.

 

Venezuela has over 17 trillion in oil reserves if extracted

 


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Posted : 01/04/2026 8:35 am
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Maduro’s trial will be overseen by Hellerstein


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Posted : 01/04/2026 11:03 am
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Posted by: @spartans9312

Posted by: @mrhighlife

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Posted by: @ribbont

@shooter 

 

Well, if that's what a Trump war looks like, then I'm all for it.  Over in a few hours, no casualties, the oppressed cheering in the streets, and (hopefully) a halt to the flow of drugs.  

 

Has to be one of the most successful military operations 

 

what was the operation?  just to grab Maduro? His people are still in power and they are pissed. Not that they can do anything but it means we probably have to move ground troops in and occupy. 

 

 

Brad explained it in his post.

 

Venezuela has over 17 trillion in oil reserves if extracted

 

did we black bag all those barrels of oil too? It would take a big plane to get them back to the US?

If the goal is the oil, which it is, then the operation is far from over. No "mission accomplished" yet. 

 


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Posted : 01/04/2026 11:04 am
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @bradstevens

so Trump's DOJ better have a top-notch trial lawyer ready to go.

Not a great track record on that.

I know. That's what I'm worried about. 

 

Legit worry. There's also I think a very real concern that the holes in this case will run far deeper than simply the caliber of the team.

 

Is the southern district of New York typical for these types of things?  If the trial goes sideways, does this give Trump the "liberal judges of New York" cover?

 


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Posted : 01/04/2026 11:07 am
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Posted by: @mrhighlife

Posted by: @spartans9312

Posted by: @mrhighlife

Posted by: @spartans9312

Posted by: @ribbont

@shooter 

 

Well, if that's what a Trump war looks like, then I'm all for it.  Over in a few hours, no casualties, the oppressed cheering in the streets, and (hopefully) a halt to the flow of drugs.  

 

Has to be one of the most successful military operations 

 

what was the operation?  just to grab Maduro? His people are still in power and they are pissed. Not that they can do anything but it means we probably have to move ground troops in and occupy. 

 

 

Brad explained it in his post.

 

Venezuela has over 17 trillion in oil reserves if extracted

 

did we black bag all those barrels of oil too? It would take a big plane to get them back to the US?

If the goal is the oil, which it is, then the operation is far from over. No "mission accomplished" yet. 

 

 

There are things we can disagree on and discuss but if people are not able to admit this was a very successful military operation then they need to do some soul searching. 

 


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Posted : 01/04/2026 11:09 am
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Jack Ryan called it.

https://twitter.com/i/status/2007386671143395783


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Posted : 01/04/2026 11:28 am
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Maduro’s trial will be overseen by Hellerstein

LOL.  Dude is 92 years old.  What a world.  

 


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Topic starter Posted : 01/04/2026 11:55 am
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Jack Ryan called it.

https://twitter.com/i/status/2007386671143395783

There is a non-zero chance that Trump saw that show one night and called up Hegseth and said "Hey Pete, you know that Jack Ryan guy down at CIA?  Yes, I know he's on TV, but he's real, very real. Some say he's the most real person we have.  Anyway, draw up plans on Venezuela.  I want someone in my office from the Pentagon briefing me in the morning.  Let's make sure it's one of the blonde's in your office. You know, the one who wears her skirts a little short. OK, gotta go. White House version of a BigMac just arrived and I have lots of tweets to get out tonight."  

 


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Topic starter Posted : 01/04/2026 12:01 pm
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“All of the problems we had with Maduro when Maduro was there. We still have those problems.” ….Rubio

 

The death of Juan Escalona has been confirmed. He was a member of Maduro’s security detail and longtime Chavez-Maduro loyalist.

 

 


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Posted : 01/04/2026 12:06 pm
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so Trump's DOJ better have a top-notch trial lawyer ready to go.

Not a great track record on that.

I know. That's what I'm worried about. 

 

"Trial".  He is already guilty.  The world is already acting all pissy and doesn't like Trump or Republicans.  World opinion doesn't matter one iota to these guys.

The old order is on life support.  America is moving from world police back to Monroe Doctrine.  Monroe Doctrine doesn't mean peace, it means busting the heads of anyone in our hemisphere who gets out of line.  Cuba's leaders should be terrified.  Nicaragua and their long time thorn in our side should be terrified.

This has been coming for a long time and the Europeans have been blind to it.  You cannot ignore the reasonable request of the main securor of your safety and be a prick and economic protectionist aimed at them (through regulation) without eventually getting blow back.  And when you openly choose sides in their domestic politics, you are begging to get dealt with as a political enemy.  Our European allies are weak and stupid to boot.

This is what a multipolar world looks like.  Hope all the people praying for the US to get taken down a peg enjoy the fruits of their labor.

 


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