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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @bradstevens

New HHS guidelines explained by two liberals. Except these two actually looked at the research and thought critically about the data, and they lay out why the "science" and "experts" we heard about during the trans craze were, at best, deluded by a bad report, and at worst, hiding data and acting intentionally misleading.  That the Biden era HHS couldn't figure this out seems like evidence of politicization of that institution, doesn't it?  

https://www.newsweek.com/liberals-should-read-the-hhs-review-of-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-opinion-11273400

The new, common-sense recommendations:

Instead of medicalization, minors with serious gender-related discomfort should get less risky talk therapy and social support, not to force them to be gender-conforming, but to help manage distress. Kids should be supported in their identity exploration and self-expression and supported as they navigate their social lives. For minors convinced they want permanent bodily changes, therapists can be there to help them cope with the frustration of delaying permanent interventions until they are physically and psychologically mature enough to make such decisions as adults. Research suggests that for many minors with gender-related distress, this discomfort will resolve during the course of normal adolescent development.

https://opa.hhs.gov/gender-dysphoria-report

Glad to see it. It confirms what many of us thought. 

 

It shouldn't make you glad to see science confirm your unscientific prejudices. It's dumb luck that you got this right (or any other thing you got right). We should be glad that we have science to lead us to the right conclusions, but don't ever confuse confluence with your own pre-formed opinions with anything meaningful.

 

What prejudices?  Aloha was correct.  

 


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Posted : 12/30/2025 8:05 am
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @bradstevens

New HHS guidelines explained by two liberals. Except these two actually looked at the research and thought critically about the data, and they lay out why the "science" and "experts" we heard about during the trans craze were, at best, deluded by a bad report, and at worst, hiding data and acting intentionally misleading.  That the Biden era HHS couldn't figure this out seems like evidence of politicization of that institution, doesn't it?  

https://www.newsweek.com/liberals-should-read-the-hhs-review-of-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-opinion-11273400

The new, common-sense recommendations:

Instead of medicalization, minors with serious gender-related discomfort should get less risky talk therapy and social support, not to force them to be gender-conforming, but to help manage distress. Kids should be supported in their identity exploration and self-expression and supported as they navigate their social lives. For minors convinced they want permanent bodily changes, therapists can be there to help them cope with the frustration of delaying permanent interventions until they are physically and psychologically mature enough to make such decisions as adults. Research suggests that for many minors with gender-related distress, this discomfort will resolve during the course of normal adolescent development.

https://opa.hhs.gov/gender-dysphoria-report

Glad to see it. It confirms what many of us thought. 

 

It shouldn't make you glad to see science confirm your unscientific prejudices. It's dumb luck that you got this right (or any other thing you got right). We should be glad that we have science to lead us to the right conclusions, but don't ever confuse confluence with your own pre-formed opinions with anything meaningful.

 

true. I didn’t word it correctly because I was keeping it short.

 

lol....I haven't seen you back down like this before.  Did GOAT scare you?  It reminded me of when TMP use to back down and agree with him😉

 


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Posted : 12/30/2025 8:35 am
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@snarlcakes This Goat contributor has it backwards. The prejudices and preformed opinions were originated by the left and foisted upon us when common sense told us this is nuts. But HHS had a Trans person in power and the Administration wanted to shove it down our throats. The school board meetings and school life were made crazy by the left.  One girl spoke out and said she didn’t want a Trans student going into the bathroom when she was in there and the Trans girl proceeded to bully her and make her life hell.  It has all been terrible.  The state telling CCS not to enforce any of the Trans support policies the board saying until the court rulings are over we will. Parents fighting at school board meetings over CRT and the the trans gender support policies.  

With the Dem party what you can be certain of is that they want to be actively involved directing our lives from birth to death.  What has gone on has been a terrible shame. 


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Posted : 12/30/2025 9:00 am
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @bradstevens

New HHS guidelines explained by two liberals. Except these two actually looked at the research and thought critically about the data, and they lay out why the "science" and "experts" we heard about during the trans craze were, at best, deluded by a bad report, and at worst, hiding data and acting intentionally misleading.  That the Biden era HHS couldn't figure this out seems like evidence of politicization of that institution, doesn't it?  

https://www.newsweek.com/liberals-should-read-the-hhs-review-of-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-opinion-11273400

The new, common-sense recommendations:

Instead of medicalization, minors with serious gender-related discomfort should get less risky talk therapy and social support, not to force them to be gender-conforming, but to help manage distress. Kids should be supported in their identity exploration and self-expression and supported as they navigate their social lives. For minors convinced they want permanent bodily changes, therapists can be there to help them cope with the frustration of delaying permanent interventions until they are physically and psychologically mature enough to make such decisions as adults. Research suggests that for many minors with gender-related distress, this discomfort will resolve during the course of normal adolescent development.

https://opa.hhs.gov/gender-dysphoria-report

Glad to see it. It confirms what many of us thought. 

 

It shouldn't make you glad to see science confirm your unscientific prejudices. It's dumb luck that you got this right (or any other thing you got right). We should be glad that we have science to lead us to the right conclusions, but don't ever confuse confluence with your own pre-formed opinions with anything meaningful.

 

true. I didn’t word it correctly because I was keeping it short.

 

And I was being overly pedantic in picking this nit.

 


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Posted : 12/30/2025 9:38 am
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@snarlcakes And here is the worst part about the Left wanting to control our lives.  They aren't even normal people.  They are freaks and geeks.  Would you want your boys growing up to be Rachel Levine?  Or would you prefer your boys marry women have kids and come home and walk Main Street during the holidays.  Why the Left is so opposed to what makes life normal and great is beyond this mama bear!  And where are the women on this website?!  I'm going to talk to some of my girlfriends and see if we can get them to come over here.


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Posted : 12/30/2025 9:58 am
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What we are seeing play out in real time is that a liberal controlled Democratic Party cannot be allowed to take power.  The have been wrong on virtually every major issue over the past 15 years:

  • health care reform
  • immigration
  • DEI
  • Covid
  • Transgenderism in children
  • support of NGO’s & aid to immigrant groups

What we see playing out in front of us now is their subjugation & pandering to Islamists & support of socialist candidates.  They must put forth moderate candidates that will acknowledge these mistakes or be kept out of office.  Are Dem voters willing to do right for Americans or do they prefer to do away with the American way of life?

 


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Posted : 12/30/2025 10:51 am
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Glad to see it. It confirms what many of us thought. 

Posted by: @goat

It shouldn't make you glad to see science confirm your unscientific prejudices. It's dumb luck that you got this right (or any other thing you got right). We should be glad that we have science to lead us to the right conclusions, but don't ever confuse confluence with your own pre-formed opinions with anything meaningful.

Yeah man, like keep your unscientific biology to yourself man...not sayin, just sayin.

 

 


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Posted : 12/30/2025 10:54 am
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Posted by: @sharinincarmel

@snarlcakes And here is the worst part about the Left wanting to control our lives.  They aren't even normal people.  They are freaks and geeks.  Would you want your boys growing up to be Rachel Levine?  Or would you prefer your boys marry women have kids and come home and walk Main Street during the holidays.  Why the Left is so opposed to what makes life normal and great is beyond this mama bear!  And where are the women on this website?!  I'm going to talk to some of my girlfriends and see if we can get them to come over here.

It is light on the ladies around.  We have the always beautiful Zeke posting occasionally.  Please let your girlfriends know I am taken.  I was unfortunately blessed with great looks and a gift to gab.  The good lord wanted to challenge me.  Random question.  What do you hate more?  Tariffs or water down tinis?

 


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Posted : 12/30/2025 10:56 am
CO. Hoosier
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Posted by: @goat

It shouldn't make you glad to see science confirm your unscientific prejudices. It's dumb luck that you got this right (or any other thing you got right). We should be glad that we have science to lead us to the right conclusions, but don't ever confuse confluence with your own pre-formed opinions with anything meaningful.

 

Any similarity between science and adolescent gender affirming care is purely coincidental. This was never about science. It was all emotion and political pandering. It mostly came from the females of the human species.  Pure woke. Reading the current DSM should have been the first clue about the problems. It is ok that opposition comes from common sense, established prejudice and emotion, because that is what gender affirming care rests on. 


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Posted : 12/30/2025 10:57 am
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sharon washburn's avatar
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@snarlcakes Tariffs?  I don’t know. Tinis better never be watered down!  My girlfriends are all married!!  A few aren’t taken though 😘


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Posted : 12/30/2025 11:04 am
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

Posted by: @goat

It shouldn't make you glad to see science confirm your unscientific prejudices. It's dumb luck that you got this right (or any other thing you got right). We should be glad that we have science to lead us to the right conclusions, but don't ever confuse confluence with your own pre-formed opinions with anything meaningful.

 

Any similarity between science and adolescent gender affirming care is purely coincidental. This was never about science. It was all emotion and political pandering. It mostly came from the females of the human species.  Pure woke. Reading the current DSM should have been the first clue about the problems. It is ok that opposition comes from common sense, established prejudice and emotion, because that is what gender affirming care rests on. 

Yes, it was entirely political. On both sides. That was my point. I thought I was being too nitpicky with Aloha, but based on the other responses since, I should have just waited and directed my complaint at everyone. 

 


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Posted : 12/30/2025 11:09 am
OneEyedUndertaker
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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @co-hoosier

Posted by: @goat

It shouldn't make you glad to see science confirm your unscientific prejudices. It's dumb luck that you got this right (or any other thing you got right). We should be glad that we have science to lead us to the right conclusions, but don't ever confuse confluence with your own pre-formed opinions with anything meaningful.

 

Any similarity between science and adolescent gender affirming care is purely coincidental. This was never about science. It was all emotion and political pandering. It mostly came from the females of the human species.  Pure woke. Reading the current DSM should have been the first clue about the problems. It is ok that opposition comes from common sense, established prejudice and emotion, because that is what gender affirming care rests on. 

Yes, it was entirely political. On both sides. That was my point. I thought I was being too nitpicky with Aloha, but based on the other responses since, I should have just waited and directed my complaint at everyone. 

 

Except one side was correct, as has been the case on many things.  Interesting that every time the left is wrong you want to pull the “both sides” card instead of holding those that forced these ideologies on people accountable.

 


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Posted : 12/30/2025 11:18 am
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Posted by: @all4you

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Glad to see it. It confirms what many of us thought. 

Posted by: @goat

It shouldn't make you glad to see science confirm your unscientific prejudices. It's dumb luck that you got this right (or any other thing you got right). We should be glad that we have science to lead us to the right conclusions, but don't ever confuse confluence with your own pre-formed opinions with anything meaningful.

Yeah man, like keep your unscientific biology to yourself man...not sayin, just sayin.

 

 

You didn't know?  Each day we wake up blank slates with only our prejudices.  Waiting and hoping for the science to come and set us free.  

Who or what is this "science"?  Usually 30+ purple haired childless white ladies who took out 6 figure loans to get a degree in left handed queer studies who are now backed by fiat dollars freshly printed by our beloved U.S. government who tell us fine prejudice folks the truth.  

Anyhoo, the science has now spoken.  Chopping off kids breasts and pumping them full of drugs is a bad idea.  Those who claimed that ahead of "the science" were just lucky fools. 

 


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Posted : 12/30/2025 11:38 am
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CO. Hoosier
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@goat 

I reject your both sides argument.  The gender affirming advocates chose the emotional/political/framing, not the opponents.  


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Posted : 12/30/2025 11:50 am
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@snarlcakes It is a pattern with the left. Gender affirming care. Defund. Border. All the same soup.  Rinse repeat.  Deny. Deflect.  Both sides.


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