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BradStevens
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New HHS guidelines explained by two liberals. Except these two actually looked at the research and thought critically about the data, and they lay out why the "science" and "experts" we heard about during the trans craze were, at best, deluded by a bad report, and at worst, hiding data and acting intentionally misleading.  That the Biden era HHS couldn't figure this out seems like evidence of politicization of that institution, doesn't it?  

https://www.newsweek.com/liberals-should-read-the-hhs-review-of-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-opinion-11273400

The new, common-sense recommendations:

Instead of medicalization, minors with serious gender-related discomfort should get less risky talk therapy and social support, not to force them to be gender-conforming, but to help manage distress. Kids should be supported in their identity exploration and self-expression and supported as they navigate their social lives. For minors convinced they want permanent bodily changes, therapists can be there to help them cope with the frustration of delaying permanent interventions until they are physically and psychologically mature enough to make such decisions as adults. Research suggests that for many minors with gender-related distress, this discomfort will resolve during the course of normal adolescent development.

https://opa.hhs.gov/gender-dysphoria-report


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Topic starter Posted : 12/29/2025 9:55 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

New HHS guidelines explained by two liberals. Except these two actually looked at the research and thought critically about the data, and they lay out why the "science" and "experts" we heard about during the trans craze were, at best, deluded by a bad report, and at worst, hiding data and acting intentionally misleading.  That the Biden era HHS couldn't figure this out seems like evidence of politicization of that institution, doesn't it?  

https://www.newsweek.com/liberals-should-read-the-hhs-review-of-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-opinion-11273400

The new common-sense recommendations:

Instead of medicalization, minors with serious gender-related discomfort should get less risky talk therapy and social support, not to force them to be gender-conforming, but to help manage distress. Kids should be supported in their identity exploration and self-expression and supported as they navigate their social lives. For minors convinced they want permanent bodily changes, therapists can be there to help them cope with the frustration of delaying permanent interventions until they are physically and psychologically mature enough to make such decisions as adults. Research suggests that for many minors with gender-related distress, this discomfort will resolve during the course of normal adolescent development.

https://opa.hhs.gov/gender-dysphoria-report

This sounds a lot like what the Brits figured out a couple of years ago.

 


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Posted : 12/29/2025 10:06 pm
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@bradstevens Of all the truly frightening things about the left it’s what they’ve done and would do to our children that worries this mama bear most.  From COVID to gender identity practices.  Every night we include President Trump in our prayers from what he saved us from. Tim Walz!


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Posted by: @bradstevens

New HHS guidelines explained by two liberals. Except these two actually looked at the research and thought critically about the data, and they lay out why the "science" and "experts" we heard about during the trans craze were, at best, deluded by a bad report, and at worst, hiding data and acting intentionally misleading.  That the Biden era HHS couldn't figure this out seems like evidence of politicization of that institution, doesn't it?  

https://www.newsweek.com/liberals-should-read-the-hhs-review-of-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-opinion-11273400

The new common-sense recommendations:

Instead of medicalization, minors with serious gender-related discomfort should get less risky talk therapy and social support, not to force them to be gender-conforming, but to help manage distress. Kids should be supported in their identity exploration and self-expression and supported as they navigate their social lives. For minors convinced they want permanent bodily changes, therapists can be there to help them cope with the frustration of delaying permanent interventions until they are physically and psychologically mature enough to make such decisions as adults. Research suggests that for many minors with gender-related distress, this discomfort will resolve during the course of normal adolescent development.

https://opa.hhs.gov/gender-dysphoria-report

This sounds a lot like what the Brits figured out a couple of years ago.

 

And Finland and Sweden.  

 


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Topic starter Posted : 12/29/2025 10:10 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

New HHS guidelines explained by two liberals. Except these two actually looked at the research and thought critically about the data, and they lay out why the "science" and "experts" we heard about during the trans craze were, at best, deluded by a bad report, and at worst, hiding data and acting intentionally misleading.  That the Biden era HHS couldn't figure this out seems like evidence of politicization of that institution, doesn't it?  

https://www.newsweek.com/liberals-should-read-the-hhs-review-of-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-opinion-11273400

The new common-sense recommendations:

Instead of medicalization, minors with serious gender-related discomfort should get less risky talk therapy and social support, not to force them to be gender-conforming, but to help manage distress. Kids should be supported in their identity exploration and self-expression and supported as they navigate their social lives. For minors convinced they want permanent bodily changes, therapists can be there to help them cope with the frustration of delaying permanent interventions until they are physically and psychologically mature enough to make such decisions as adults. Research suggests that for many minors with gender-related distress, this discomfort will resolve during the course of normal adolescent development.

https://opa.hhs.gov/gender-dysphoria-report

This sounds a lot like what the Brits figured out a couple of years ago.

 

And Finland and Sweden.  

 

I'm not familiar with those findings, but I assume they are similar to the Cass study.

 


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Posted : 12/29/2025 10:13 pm
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Posted by: @sharinincarmel
... that worries this mama bear most. 

Did it worry you a month ago, when you were papa bear?

 


"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451

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Posted : 12/29/2025 10:18 pm
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@shooter Huh?  Yes it worried us desperately. Look up the ridiculous transgender support policy we had to fight in Carmel!  It was awful.  Are you Trans?  Or just a Walz/Harris supporter?  Thank goodness for Rfk Jr too!   HHS was a disaster under Trans leadership.


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Posted : 12/29/2025 10:20 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

New HHS guidelines explained by two liberals. Except these two actually looked at the research and thought critically about the data, and they lay out why the "science" and "experts" we heard about during the trans craze were, at best, deluded by a bad report, and at worst, hiding data and acting intentionally misleading.  That the Biden era HHS couldn't figure this out seems like evidence of politicization of that institution, doesn't it?  

https://www.newsweek.com/liberals-should-read-the-hhs-review-of-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-opinion-11273400

The new, common-sense recommendations:

Instead of medicalization, minors with serious gender-related discomfort should get less risky talk therapy and social support, not to force them to be gender-conforming, but to help manage distress. Kids should be supported in their identity exploration and self-expression and supported as they navigate their social lives. For minors convinced they want permanent bodily changes, therapists can be there to help them cope with the frustration of delaying permanent interventions until they are physically and psychologically mature enough to make such decisions as adults. Research suggests that for many minors with gender-related distress, this discomfort will resolve during the course of normal adolescent development.

https://opa.hhs.gov/gender-dysphoria-report


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Posted : 12/29/2025 10:22 pm
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@goat https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/12/this-isnt-how-good-scientific-debate-happens-academics-on-culture-of-fear-in-gender-medicine-research/p >

I read that one when it was published, too. For a hot minute, the Brits were way ahead of us on this issue.

 


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Posted : 12/29/2025 10:27 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

New HHS guidelines explained by two liberals. Except these two actually looked at the research and thought critically about the data, and they lay out why the "science" and "experts" we heard about during the trans craze were, at best, deluded by a bad report, and at worst, hiding data and acting intentionally misleading.  That the Biden era HHS couldn't figure this out seems like evidence of politicization of that institution, doesn't it?  

https://www.newsweek.com/liberals-should-read-the-hhs-review-of-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-opinion-11273400

The new, common-sense recommendations:

Instead of medicalization, minors with serious gender-related discomfort should get less risky talk therapy and social support, not to force them to be gender-conforming, but to help manage distress. Kids should be supported in their identity exploration and self-expression and supported as they navigate their social lives. For minors convinced they want permanent bodily changes, therapists can be there to help them cope with the frustration of delaying permanent interventions until they are physically and psychologically mature enough to make such decisions as adults. Research suggests that for many minors with gender-related distress, this discomfort will resolve during the course of normal adolescent development.

https://opa.hhs.gov/gender-dysphoria-report

Glad to see it. It confirms what many of us thought. 

 


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Posted : 12/29/2025 10:49 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

New HHS guidelines explained by two liberals. Except these two actually looked at the research and thought critically about the data, and they lay out why the "science" and "experts" we heard about during the trans craze were, at best, deluded by a bad report, and at worst, hiding data and acting intentionally misleading.  That the Biden era HHS couldn't figure this out seems like evidence of politicization of that institution, doesn't it?  

https://www.newsweek.com/liberals-should-read-the-hhs-review-of-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-opinion-11273400

The new, common-sense recommendations:

Instead of medicalization, minors with serious gender-related discomfort should get less risky talk therapy and social support, not to force them to be gender-conforming, but to help manage distress. Kids should be supported in their identity exploration and self-expression and supported as they navigate their social lives. For minors convinced they want permanent bodily changes, therapists can be there to help them cope with the frustration of delaying permanent interventions until they are physically and psychologically mature enough to make such decisions as adults. Research suggests that for many minors with gender-related distress, this discomfort will resolve during the course of normal adolescent development.

https://opa.hhs.gov/gender-dysphoria-report

Glad to see it. It confirms what many of us thought. 

 

It shouldn't make you glad to see science confirm your unscientific prejudices. It's dumb luck that you got this right (or any other thing you got right). We should be glad that we have science to lead us to the right conclusions, but don't ever confuse confluence with your own pre-formed opinions with anything meaningful.

 


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Posted : 12/29/2025 11:02 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

New HHS guidelines explained by two liberals. Except these two actually looked at the research and thought critically about the data, and they lay out why the "science" and "experts" we heard about during the trans craze were, at best, deluded by a bad report, and at worst, hiding data and acting intentionally misleading.  That the Biden era HHS couldn't figure this out seems like evidence of politicization of that institution, doesn't it?  

https://www.newsweek.com/liberals-should-read-the-hhs-review-of-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-opinion-11273400

The new, common-sense recommendations:

Instead of medicalization, minors with serious gender-related discomfort should get less risky talk therapy and social support, not to force them to be gender-conforming, but to help manage distress. Kids should be supported in their identity exploration and self-expression and supported as they navigate their social lives. For minors convinced they want permanent bodily changes, therapists can be there to help them cope with the frustration of delaying permanent interventions until they are physically and psychologically mature enough to make such decisions as adults. Research suggests that for many minors with gender-related distress, this discomfort will resolve during the course of normal adolescent development.

https://opa.hhs.gov/gender-dysphoria-report

Glad to see it. It confirms what many of us thought. 

 

It shouldn't make you glad to see science confirm your unscientific prejudices. It's dumb luck that you got this right (or any other thing you got right). We should be glad that we have science to lead us to the right conclusions, but don't ever confuse confluence with your own pre-formed opinions with anything meaningful.

 

true. I didn’t word it correctly because I was keeping it short.

 


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Posted : 12/30/2025 1:29 am
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Posted by: @sharinincarmel

@shooter Huh?  Yes it worried us desperately. Look up the ridiculous transgender support policy we had to fight in Carmel!  It was awful.  Are you Trans?  Or just a Walz/Harris supporter?  Thank goodness for Rfk Jr too!   HHS was a disaster under Trans leadership.

 

You start the gambling venture yet?

 


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