I simply receive wages in exchange for giving up those fruits.
Wages (compensation) are the fruits of your labor. You are free to sell your labor, talents, etc. for a price you choose. Can’t do that in a collective.
Wages are absolutely not the fruits of my labor. They are the compensation the owner gives me in exchange for letting him keep the fruits of my labor.
I simply receive wages in exchange for giving up those fruits.
Wages (compensation) are the fruits of your labor. You are free to sell your labor, talents, etc. for a price you choose. Can’t do that in a collective.
Wages are absolutely not the fruits of my labor. They are the compensation the owner gives me in exchange for letting him keep the fruits of my labor.
LOL. Goat be droppin' the nuance bomb.
70% of people want to start their own business. 6% do. Why?I simply receive wages in exchange for giving up those fruits.
Wages (compensation) are the fruits of your labor. You are free to sell your labor, talents, etc. for a price you choose. Can’t do that in a collective.
Wages are absolutely not the fruits of my labor. They are the compensation the owner gives me in exchange for letting him keep the fruits of my labor.
Risk. Capital investment. Etc. etc. etc. COH isn't wildly off here. The owner has taken all the risk and supplied hte initial investment which allows him to hire employees for a wage. A wage paid to an employee of the company. An agreed price for the labor was achieved between two consenting parties. If you want to keep the fruits of your labor, start your own business. But would you be a hypocrite for then hiring workers who wouldn't get to keep the fruits of their own labor?
And certainly in a collective those fruits are distributed unequally. So it ain't fair there either.
But whatever we're arguing about, this will get 100x worse with AI. Wheeeeeeeee
Risk. Capital investment. Etc. etc. etc. COH isn't wildly off here. The owner has taken all the risk
Yep. Personally guaranteeing the firm 6 figure LOC to meet payrolls sobers you up really fast.
Rather large difference between the two.So contra ArthurDent, I don't see Mamdani talking about collectivism as abstract. I think he's making a call back to Lenin, Mao, etc. with his words here and elsewhere and that should give people pause.
But whatever you do, don't you dare make Hitler/Nazi/Fascist references about Trump or his followers. That's TDS, of course.
Of course, you need more than just TDS to believe Trump is a Nazi—you also need to be a fool.
And especially with small business owners, it’s not just risk at startup. It’s risk every day you’re operating.Risk. Capital investment. Etc. etc. etc. COH isn't wildly off here. The owner has taken all the risk
Yep. Personally guaranteeing the firm 6 figure LOC to meet payrolls sobers you up really fast.
If you want that definition, then our earnings are never the fruits of our labor. They are the compensation society gives us in exchange for their valuation of our work.Wages are absolutely not the fruits of my labor. They are the compensation the owner gives me in exchange for letting him keep the fruits of my labor.
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And you use that compensation to purchase goods and services from others. The free economy runs on individuals monetizing their labor.
... And especially with small business owners, it’s not just risk at startup. It’s risk every day you’re operating.
And the common man, who bleeds on the battlefield, does he risk less? - William Wallace (Braveheart. 😆 )
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A snippet of background on the Netherlands new unrealized/mark to market tax ploy. 36% on unrealized capital gains. Done yearly. Starting 2028. This lays out the conundrum in that the netherlands high court invalidated a prior scheme so left with two options, a true capital gains tax (post sale or transfer) or an unrealized "wealth tax", they chose the latter.
Coming to America?
Wealth “taxes” aren’t taxes. They are property seizures and violate the takings clause. Not just my opinion . . . .
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/when-is-a-tax-not-a-tax-6ea56691?st=QYeFR5
Yeah, i wonder if the EU is even going to let this stand. They have til 2028 to decide I guess.Wealth “taxes” aren’t taxes. They are property seizures and violate the takings clause. Not just my opinion . . . .
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/when-is-a-tax-not-a-tax-6ea56691?st=QYeFR5
Rather large difference between the two.So contra ArthurDent, I don't see Mamdani talking about collectivism as abstract. I think he's making a call back to Lenin, Mao, etc. with his words here and elsewhere and that should give people pause.
But whatever you do, don't you dare make Hitler/Nazi/Fascist references about Trump or his followers. That's TDS, of course.
Of course, you need more than just TDS to believe Trump is a Nazi—you also need to be a fool.
Just so I'm clear, referencing Trump and Hitler in the same breath makes you a fool, but referencing Mamdani and Lenin or Mao together is okay?
Rather large difference between the two.So contra ArthurDent, I don't see Mamdani talking about collectivism as abstract. I think he's making a call back to Lenin, Mao, etc. with his words here and elsewhere and that should give people pause.
But whatever you do, don't you dare make Hitler/Nazi/Fascist references about Trump or his followers. That's TDS, of course.
Of course, you need more than just TDS to believe Trump is a Nazi—you also need to be a fool.
Just so I'm clear, referencing Trump and Hitler in the same breath makes you a fool, but referencing Mamdani and Lenin or Mao together is okay?
I know this is a tough concept for some, but everything does not, in fact, equal everything.
The ridiculous comparisons indicate a serious lack of intellect.

