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@snarlcakes I think the horseshoe theory applies. The further right or left you go on the spectrum these days the more grievance based, group identity based and conspiratorial the politics seems to become. 

 

Although I think the classic political spectrum we all think of is inadequate or not applicable for measuring today's politics. 


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Posted : 09/05/2025 8:58 am
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Posted by: @mcm666

@iunorth what you and high guy and others want today is pretend there are equivalents.  There aren’t.  The left is wayyyy farther down the road

your Trump hat, Trump shirt, Trump flag, Trump bible, Trump shoes, Trump underwear, Trump cereal, ETC says otherwise. 

TRUMP LIFE!

 


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Posted : 09/05/2025 8:59 am
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@mrhighlife you’re not saying anything. That’s the problem with you low watt lefties. You’re just going on feelzzzzzzz. You don’t want to talk policy. Waste of time to be honest


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Posted : 09/05/2025 9:03 am
CO. Hoosier
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Posted by: @bulk-vh

Crazy Libs = Crazy Libs

Crazy Cons = Crazy Libs

Exactly. The new political spectrum is crazy on the left and normal on the right.  

You better  go check the tampon dispenser in the men’s room. 


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Posted : 09/05/2025 9:03 am
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@co-hoosier here’s what I don’t understand. Why these lefties can’t say yes we’re electing far left politicians who promote far left policies and I hate it!  Or. And guess what bitch?!  I Fing love it!!  Great. Either are fine. But to deny it. For what purpose.  It certainly inhibits discussion.  You’re perpetually stuck whether something even exists. Makes for an awful board


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Posted : 09/05/2025 9:08 am
CO. Hoosier
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Posted by: @mrhighlife

um… You guys elected Trump. 😂 

If you don’t see the difference between Trump and the Democrats who claim Chicago doesn’t have a crime problem, California is fine, you are beyond help.  Axelrod, Bowser, Cuomo, and Carville get it. You don’t.  


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Posted : 09/05/2025 9:16 am
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CO. Hoosier
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Posted by: @mcm666

here’s what I don’t understand. Why these lefties can’t say yes we’re electing far left politicians who promote far left policies and I hate it!  Or. And guess what bitch?!  I Fing love it!!  Great. Either are fine. But to deny it. For what purpose.  It certainly inhibits discussion.  You’re perpetually stuck whether something even exists. Makes for an awful board

When “but Trump” is the answer to all the examples of Democrat craziness, you know we aren’t dealing with Mensa here.  

No kings day told me all I need to know about the ordinary democrats these days.  The problem is the horrendous damage democrats cause and they continue to support the destruction only because Trump tries to fix it.  

Democracy produced Trump.  For the Democrats, seems like democracy is only good when you agree with it.  


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Posted : 09/05/2025 9:27 am
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Posted by: @carramrod

@bradstevens like Mein Kampf?

No. 

Hitler’s ideas were radically illiberal. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 09/05/2025 9:45 am
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

@co-hoosier amen Prof.  @bradstevens they're all leftist.  If you're scared of this stuff, cut government and take away the capital that funds it.  They're in your boat, not mine.

These people are in teh Republican Party.  They self identify as people on the Right.  
This line of argument is analogous to Dems and Leftists saying Woke people are illiberal and therefore on the Right so “you guys” take care of them. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 09/05/2025 9:56 am
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

Posted by: @bulk-vh

Crazy Libs = Crazy Libs

Crazy Cons = Crazy Libs

Exactly. The new political spectrum is crazy on the left and normal on the right.  

You better  go check the tampon dispenser in the men’s room. 

So you’ll just ignore the problem?  That should work. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 09/05/2025 10:04 am
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

Posted by: @mcm666

here’s what I don’t understand. Why these lefties can’t say yes we’re electing far left politicians who promote far left policies and I hate it!  Or. And guess what bitch?!  I Fing love it!!  Great. Either are fine. But to deny it. For what purpose.  It certainly inhibits discussion.  You’re perpetually stuck whether something even exists. Makes for an awful board

When “but Trump” is the answer to all the examples of Democrat craziness, you know we aren’t dealing with Mensa here.  

No kings day told me all I need to know about the ordinary democrats these days.  The problem is the horrendous damage democrats cause and they continue to support the destruction only because Trump tries to fix it.  

Democracy produced Trump.  For the Democrats, seems like democracy is only good when you agree with it.  

The problem with both of your analysis here is that the people you are talking about are not the author of this piece and not me.  

If you hear warnings about the dangerous excesses of the American right and tune out, I get it. The Trump years have brought with them no shortage of warnings—and many of them have been hyperbolic, dishonest, or downright unhinged.

But when the warning is coming from my friend Rod Dreher, it’s worth heeding. Why? Not just because Rod is a perceptive political and cultural thinker and writer, especially on the subject of past and present totalitarianism. But also because Rod would pass the strictest of contemporary conservative purity tests. He’s a regular speaker at National Conservatism conferences. He admires Viktor Orbán. J.D. Vance is a longtime, personal friend of his.

And he is very worried about where the American right is headed, as you’ll read below.

Rod is ringing the alarm after a trip across America that “shocked me to my core.” He saw “the deep inroads, in such a short period, that right-wing totalitarianism, expressed most often as antisemitism, has made, especially among a growing segment of right-wing males. And unlike so many who point this out, this community is not exotic or foreign to me—this is my world.”


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Topic starter Posted : 09/05/2025 10:07 am
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

Posted by: @mrhighlife

um… You guys elected Trump. 😂 

If you don’t see the difference between Trump and the Democrats who claim Chicago doesn’t have a crime problem, California is fine, you are beyond help.  Axelrod, Bowser, Cuomo, and Carville get it. You don’t.  

Not sure why you’re arguing about Trump and using whatabouts, instead of addressing the podcast or my posts, that never mentioned him. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 09/05/2025 10:10 am
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

Posted by: @bulk-vh

Crazy Libs = Crazy Libs

Crazy Cons = Crazy Libs

Exactly. The new political spectrum is crazy on the left and normal on the right.  

This guy is normal?

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/nick-fuentes/

 


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Topic starter Posted : 09/05/2025 11:21 am
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@bradstevens the difference is those promoting radical shit on the right aren’t holding the highest offices and their policies aren’t being implemented across the country

 

jr and fla are flirting 


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Posted : 09/05/2025 11:24 am
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@bradstevens I understand. I think it’s overstated. I’m not taking the time to read it but what I glean from your take and the excerpt is that we waited until it was too late with the left. Now they are the party. The right will suffer a similar fate if we don’t nip it in the bud. Again the flaw in this logic is why would we thwart the will of the people. If the right wants that so be it.  It’s the same with the left. I hate it but so what. If they want a socialist dei open border country and have enough supporters so be it.  I leave the country or I live with it. That’s how it all works


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Posted : 09/05/2025 11:34 am
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