A total ban is not a mainstream conservative position, it’s a fringe/extreme position. That holds even if you personally consider it the right position.I’m for restrictions starting in second trimester and against third trimester abortion national wide. That aligns with what most conservatives support. A total ban is an extremist position as is abortion on demand until birth. The President’s position is that abortion on demand until the day of birth is OK if that’s what the state allows.@aloha-hoosier I'd also add you're not against abortion, which isn't conservative either.
Conserving human life isn't an extreme position.
It’s funny you think those particular cuts are permanent since the government has scrambled to rehire many of those people or to hire replacements. I’m for reducing the workforce permanently by 100s of thousands, but DOGE didn’t do that. It was done the right way in the late 90s and can be done again. Let’s do that.DOGE was a fucked up concept and it failed the way I said it would. It likely ended up costing more than it “saved.” We did tax the American people about $300 billion due to tariffs and spent less while government was shutdown (not pay since that was retroactively paid) that has led to a slightly smaller deficit this past FY25 (which started 1 October 2024) but we’ve made no major systemic changes that would lead to reducing spending, the deficits on a permanent basis, and have not reduced debt. A conservative wants those things and wants it to be permanent.@aloha-hoosier shit for brains the government is smaller because of Trump and DOGE, which you were against. How do you think you think they decreased deficit spending this year? You're obviously not always for lowering deficit spending.
Cutting 271,000 government jobs is never a failure. It cuts cost and those 271,000 people now have to go and get a private sector job that leads to more growth. This is basic shit, Aloha.
It’s funny you think those particular cuts are permanent since the government has scrambled to rehire many of those people or to hire replacements. I’m for reducing the workforce permanently by 100s of thousands, but DOGE didn’t do that. It was done the right way in the late 90s and can be done again. Let’s do that.DOGE was a fucked up concept and it failed the way I said it would. It likely ended up costing more than it “saved.” We did tax the American people about $300 billion due to tariffs and spent less while government was shutdown (not pay since that was retroactively paid) that has led to a slightly smaller deficit this past FY25 (which started 1 October 2024) but we’ve made no major systemic changes that would lead to reducing spending, the deficits on a permanent basis, and have not reduced debt. A conservative wants those things and wants it to be permanent.@aloha-hoosier shit for brains the government is smaller because of Trump and DOGE, which you were against. How do you think you think they decreased deficit spending this year? You're obviously not always for lowering deficit spending.
Cutting 271,000 government jobs is never a failure. It cuts cost and those 271,000 people now have to go and get a private sector job that leads to more growth. This is basic shit, Aloha.
No, Aloha they keep track of it. The Federal government has 271,000 fewer jobs now. The data just came out within the past 20 days.
Fewer, not permanent. They need to eliminate Dept of Ed and officially eliminate many of those jobs, but many will move to other departments. Permanent reductions in billets are approved by Congress. That hasn’t happened. I’m all for that, except it needs to be done intelligently. That has not happened either.It’s funny you think those particular cuts are permanent since the government has scrambled to rehire many of those people or to hire replacements. I’m for reducing the workforce permanently by 100s of thousands, but DOGE didn’t do that. It was done the right way in the late 90s and can be done again. Let’s do that.DOGE was a fucked up concept and it failed the way I said it would. It likely ended up costing more than it “saved.” We did tax the American people about $300 billion due to tariffs and spent less while government was shutdown (not pay since that was retroactively paid) that has led to a slightly smaller deficit this past FY25 (which started 1 October 2024) but we’ve made no major systemic changes that would lead to reducing spending, the deficits on a permanent basis, and have not reduced debt. A conservative wants those things and wants it to be permanent.@aloha-hoosier shit for brains the government is smaller because of Trump and DOGE, which you were against. How do you think you think they decreased deficit spending this year? You're obviously not always for lowering deficit spending.
Cutting 271,000 government jobs is never a failure. It cuts cost and those 271,000 people now have to go and get a private sector job that leads to more growth. This is basic shit, Aloha.
No, Aloha they keep track of it. The Federal government has 271,000 fewer jobs now. The data just came out within the past 20 days.
Fewer, not permanent. They need to eliminate Dept of Ed and officially eliminate many of those jobs, but many will move to other departments. Permanent reductions in billets are approved by Congress. That hasn’t happened. I’m all for that, except it needs to be done intelligently. That has not happened either.It’s funny you think those particular cuts are permanent since the government has scrambled to rehire many of those people or to hire replacements. I’m for reducing the workforce permanently by 100s of thousands, but DOGE didn’t do that. It was done the right way in the late 90s and can be done again. Let’s do that.DOGE was a fucked up concept and it failed the way I said it would. It likely ended up costing more than it “saved.” We did tax the American people about $300 billion due to tariffs and spent less while government was shutdown (not pay since that was retroactively paid) that has led to a slightly smaller deficit this past FY25 (which started 1 October 2024) but we’ve made no major systemic changes that would lead to reducing spending, the deficits on a permanent basis, and have not reduced debt. A conservative wants those things and wants it to be permanent.@aloha-hoosier shit for brains the government is smaller because of Trump and DOGE, which you were against. How do you think you think they decreased deficit spending this year? You're obviously not always for lowering deficit spending.
Cutting 271,000 government jobs is never a failure. It cuts cost and those 271,000 people now have to go and get a private sector job that leads to more growth. This is basic shit, Aloha.
No, Aloha they keep track of it. The Federal government has 271,000 fewer jobs now. The data just came out within the past 20 days.
Nothing is ever permanent. Congress can always reduce or add jobs.
Once Congress passes the bills reducing maximum size of the federal workforce and they’re signed into law, it’s much harder to change the law again to restore or increase the size. Everything done solely by the executive branch can be changed easily.Fewer, not permanent. They need to eliminate Dept of Ed and officially eliminate many of those jobs, but many will move to other departments. Permanent reductions in billets are approved by Congress. That hasn’t happened. I’m all for that, except it needs to be done intelligently. That has not happened either.It’s funny you think those particular cuts are permanent since the government has scrambled to rehire many of those people or to hire replacements. I’m for reducing the workforce permanently by 100s of thousands, but DOGE didn’t do that. It was done the right way in the late 90s and can be done again. Let’s do that.DOGE was a fucked up concept and it failed the way I said it would. It likely ended up costing more than it “saved.” We did tax the American people about $300 billion due to tariffs and spent less while government was shutdown (not pay since that was retroactively paid) that has led to a slightly smaller deficit this past FY25 (which started 1 October 2024) but we’ve made no major systemic changes that would lead to reducing spending, the deficits on a permanent basis, and have not reduced debt. A conservative wants those things and wants it to be permanent.@aloha-hoosier shit for brains the government is smaller because of Trump and DOGE, which you were against. How do you think you think they decreased deficit spending this year? You're obviously not always for lowering deficit spending.
Cutting 271,000 government jobs is never a failure. It cuts cost and those 271,000 people now have to go and get a private sector job that leads to more growth. This is basic shit, Aloha.
No, Aloha they keep track of it. The Federal government has 271,000 fewer jobs now. The data just came out within the past 20 days.
Nothing is ever permanent. Congress can always reduce or add jobs.
@aloha-hoosier I never said it wasn't. What's your point? You're the one trying to argue having 271,000 fewer government jobs is a bad thing. That only makes sense if you're a.......wait for it.......wait a little longer.....just a little longer.......a shit lib 🥳
I didn’t argue that. I argued that reduction alone isn’t necessarily a good thing - could and probably is the wrong reduction. It depends on specifics and the way DOGE did it almost guaranteed it’s mostly wrong. I’ll take 500,000 billets being removed if it’s done intelligently. You think what happened is good because, wait for it, you’re an unthinking MAGA.@aloha-hoosier I never said it wasn't. What's your point? You're the one trying to argue having 271,000 fewer government jobs is a bad thing. That only makes sense if you're a.......wait for it.......wait a little longer.....just a little longer.......a shit lib 🥳
While it's true that only 10-15% of Republicans believe in a total ban, it doesn't look like your first sentence aligns with what most conservatives support:I’m for restrictions starting in second trimester and against third trimester abortion national wide. That aligns with what most conservatives support. A total ban is an extremist position as is abortion on demand until birth. The President’s position is that abortion on demand until the day of birth is OK if that’s what the state allows.@aloha-hoosier I'd also add you're not against abortion, which isn't conservative either.
- Only a minority of Republicans (around 13-15% in various polls) believe abortion should be illegal in all circumstances, without exceptions.
- A clear majority of Republicans (62%) say abortion should be legal if the woman's life is endangered.
- More than half (56%) of Republicans say it should be legal in cases of rape.
- Most Republicans (63%) favor a national ban on abortion at 15 weeks of pregnancy.
I didn’t argue that. I argued that reduction alone isn’t necessarily a good thing - could and probably is the wrong reduction. It depends on specifics and the way DOGE did it almost guaranteed it’s mostly wrong. I’ll take 500,000 billets being removed if it’s done intelligently. You think what happened is good because, wait for it, you’re an unthinking MAGA.@aloha-hoosier I never said it wasn't. What's your point? You're the one trying to argue having 271,000 fewer government jobs is a bad thing. That only makes sense if you're a.......wait for it.......wait a little longer.....just a little longer.......a shit lib 🥳
So, if you had only the two options below, which would you choose?
Option A) Doge and 271,000 fewer government jobs
Option B) No Doge and no job cuts
That pretty much matches my position nearly identically.While it's true that only 10-15% of Republicans believe in a total ban, it doesn't look like your first sentence aligns with what most conservatives support:I’m for restrictions starting in second trimester and against third trimester abortion national wide. That aligns with what most conservatives support. A total ban is an extremist position as is abortion on demand until birth. The President’s position is that abortion on demand until the day of birth is OK if that’s what the state allows.@aloha-hoosier I'd also add you're not against abortion, which isn't conservative either.
Approximately 71% of conservative Republicans and Republican leaners believe abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, according to a Pew Research Center survey from April 2024.More broadly, when considering all Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, 57% say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, while 41% say it should be legal in all or most cases.Views vary depending on the specific circumstances and the type of ban:
- Only a minority of Republicans (around 13-15% in various polls) believe abortion should be illegal in all circumstances, without exceptions.
- A clear majority of Republicans (62%) say abortion should be legal if the woman's life is endangered.
- More than half (56%) of Republicans say it should be legal in cases of rape.
- Most Republicans (63%) favor a national ban on abortion at 15 weeks of pregnancy.
Overall, Republicans tend to view abortion as a moral issue (81%), while most Democrats view it as an issue of individual rights and freedom (96%).
B, because it resulted in a mess that will cost more to sort out than anything it saved. Plus, many people that should not have had to go through that fiasco did. I’m all for shrinking the federal workforce in an intelligent manner and this wasn’t it. It just gave MAGAs that don’t know any better a stiffie.I didn’t argue that. I argued that reduction alone isn’t necessarily a good thing - could and probably is the wrong reduction. It depends on specifics and the way DOGE did it almost guaranteed it’s mostly wrong. I’ll take 500,000 billets being removed if it’s done intelligently. You think what happened is good because, wait for it, you’re an unthinking MAGA.@aloha-hoosier I never said it wasn't. What's your point? You're the one trying to argue having 271,000 fewer government jobs is a bad thing. That only makes sense if you're a.......wait for it.......wait a little longer.....just a little longer.......a shit lib 🥳
So, if you had only the two options below, which would you choose?
Option A) Doge and 271,000 fewer government jobs
Option B) No Doge and no job cuts
Most favor a ban at 15 weeks which is approximately the end of the first trimester. I think those Republicans would find a large difference in those additional few months. And those are Republicans as of now, not conservatives. I'm thinking they want more restrictions than even the 15 weeks.That pretty much matches my position nearly identically.While it's true that only 10-15% of Republicans believe in a total ban, it doesn't look like your first sentence aligns with what most conservatives support:I’m for restrictions starting in second trimester and against third trimester abortion national wide. That aligns with what most conservatives support. A total ban is an extremist position as is abortion on demand until birth. The President’s position is that abortion on demand until the day of birth is OK if that’s what the state allows.@aloha-hoosier I'd also add you're not against abortion, which isn't conservative either.
Approximately 71% of conservative Republicans and Republican leaners believe abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, according to a Pew Research Center survey from April 2024.More broadly, when considering all Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, 57% say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, while 41% say it should be legal in all or most cases.Views vary depending on the specific circumstances and the type of ban:
- Only a minority of Republicans (around 13-15% in various polls) believe abortion should be illegal in all circumstances, without exceptions.
- A clear majority of Republicans (62%) say abortion should be legal if the woman's life is endangered.
- More than half (56%) of Republicans say it should be legal in cases of rape.
- Most Republicans (63%) favor a national ban on abortion at 15 weeks of pregnancy.
Overall, Republicans tend to view abortion as a moral issue (81%), while most Democrats view it as an issue of individual rights and freedom (96%).
It's OK to be at odds with the Conservative Tribe, by the way.
Men talking about our bodies with authority 
First trimester screen? The anomaly scan? 
Men talking about our bodies with authority
For the record I didn't say anything about your bosoms or money maker out of respect for Mr Washburn.
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