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Not sure how what I said is being used the way you two are. The western gov’s have been trickling support to Ukraine. Still no totally crippling sanctions. 
how is me saying that propose Nukes and Boots? 

Mas is a Russian fool, I mean tool, or both, and he wants Russia to conquer Ukraine. Somehow he sees Ukraine, NATO and the USA as the “bad guys” and Russia as the beleaguered “good guys” who were forced to attack Ukraine.

Dbm is an isolationist/pacifist when it comes to Ukraine and he wants to totally abandon them and let Russia conquer the country. On the other hand, when it comes to Venezuelan, illegal immigrants and Americans he deems “enemies” he’s a warmonger happy to attack and summarily execute them. 

That is what they appear to be at least.

 

Yea MAS Parker is a total tool that wishes he could lick putins stool. I'm not sure I agree with your view of Dmb, exactly.

Either way, how the Phuck they are twisting my words, into nukes and boots, I simply don't understand.  

We (US) and NATO need to either put up or shut the f up. The GD fence straddling taught me decades ago, that it never works. Either get in or get OUT.  

 

DBM is a Trump sycophant, through and through. As soon as Trump takes a hard line on Russia, DBM will think you are the smartest guy in the room. Mas is a Russian stooge. There's no other explanation there. For whatever reason, he's decided to align himself with a foreign dictator. I honestly don't understand it, but that's what he's done.

 

 

Is Zelensky a Jew?

 

Can't believe I didn't notice that before. Obviously that's the explanation.

 

 

It’s always seemed like he sees it as a Russian Orthodox vs Jews battle to me. Not so much as a Russian (as in state ) sympathizer as he has been accused of being 

 


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Posted : 10/19/2025 7:42 pm
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It’s always seemed like he sees it as a Russian Orthodox vs Jews battle to me. Not so much as a Russian (as in state ) sympathizer as he has been accused of being 

I've considered that he might be Russian Orthodox as well, but sometimes he seems like hardcore fundamentalist evangelical too (the violence is OK kind). Whatever he is, he support Russia over Ukraine, won't even admit that the Russian invasion was illegal or unwarranted, hates Zelenskyy, won't say a bad word about Putin, and doesn't seem to like the US of A at all.

 


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Posted : 10/19/2025 7:53 pm
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Posted by: @spartans9312

It’s always seemed like he sees it as a Russian Orthodox vs Jews battle to me. Not so much as a Russian (as in state ) sympathizer as he has been accused of being 

That would really explain it a lot better.


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Posted : 10/19/2025 7:53 pm
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@dbmhoosier Arm them with enough (don't reply with nukes, that's stoopid) to push the Orcs into the stone age. Intel, weapons, Tech, sanctions, Orc frozen assets, blockade of ports (or empower Ukraine to do so). Russia started this crap, make the lives of the russian people so terrible that they fix their historically failed government and it's ideology. Stop slow rolling everything that has proven to "never" work. Isolate Russia from the rest of the planet. 

Do I know the exact tools and extent of the power of the western allies, no. But I know it has the ability, and has continued to play politics and Putin knows. Humanity needs this shit to stop. 

That help? 

Tomahawks seem to be the flavor of the day. I would also wager that there are even much more sophisticated system that we have no idea about. Also I question if the tomahawks are just a smoke screen (so to say) to draw attention away from other tech/ capabilities.     

Apparently Trump disagrees.

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1979952358495756652?t=uGObN33AGzUW8GmaahUL3Q&s=19

 

 

The history of that area is difficult. Witkoff says Eastern Ukraine should belong to Russia because the residents speak Russian. If I remember correctly, Ranger said in his experiences in the area they consider themselves Russian. 

 


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Posted : 10/20/2025 6:24 am
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@dbmhoosier Arm them with enough (don't reply with nukes, that's stoopid) to push the Orcs into the stone age. Intel, weapons, Tech, sanctions, Orc frozen assets, blockade of ports (or empower Ukraine to do so). Russia started this crap, make the lives of the russian people so terrible that they fix their historically failed government and it's ideology. Stop slow rolling everything that has proven to "never" work. Isolate Russia from the rest of the planet. 

Do I know the exact tools and extent of the power of the western allies, no. But I know it has the ability, and has continued to play politics and Putin knows. Humanity needs this shit to stop. 

That help? 

Tomahawks seem to be the flavor of the day. I would also wager that there are even much more sophisticated system that we have no idea about. Also I question if the tomahawks are just a smoke screen (so to say) to draw attention away from other tech/ capabilities.     

Apparently Trump disagrees.

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1979952358495756652?t=uGObN33AGzUW8GmaahUL3Q&s=19

 

 

The history of that area is difficult. Witkoff says Eastern Ukraine should belong to Russia because the residents speak Russian. If I remember correctly, Ranger said in his experiences in the area they consider themselves Russian. 

 

They absolutely do.  I believe the polling has said that given a choice 90% would vote to join Russia.  They overwhelming speak Russian.

 


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Posted : 10/20/2025 7:02 am
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@joe_hoopsier  Here is an article on Russia's economy, it's strengths and weaknesses.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/russia/cracks-russias-war-economy

One point I like, spending all that they are on war machines, death benefits, and pensions for wounded; doesn't in any way improve the economy. None of that is going to infrastructure, modernization, or other items that grow the economy. The article calls the Russian economy strong, yet brittle. 

The article points out they already are getting less oil revenue than they projected because of the world price dropping. As long as the Saudis keep the taps open, India flaunting sanctions isn't as bad. Russia will have to stay under world prices. 

 


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Posted : 10/20/2025 9:16 am
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The history of that area is difficult. Witkoff says Eastern Ukraine should belong to Russia because the residents speak Russian. If I remember correctly, Ranger said in his experiences in the area they consider themselves Russian. 

 

 

Yes I recall that convo. If that’s what they want then have at it. Putin just taking it isn’t the way though. 

 


If men were any more stupid, we would have breed for the extinction of women. Proof yet again that WE are the best thing they have going for them.

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Topic starter Posted : 10/20/2025 9:45 am
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Quoting @aloha-hoosier 

 

“assist across the board, from hosting meetings such as this one to providing the best data and analysis available.”

With Ukraine capabilities, given the highest possible Intel, they will defend their land. 

The great recent success of crippling Russian fuel/ MIC / energy sectors, I think the intel has ben being shared for a while now and we are just now being drip fed the "commitment" for public consumption. I'm Okay with that.   

 


If men were any more stupid, we would have breed for the extinction of women. Proof yet again that WE are the best thing they have going for them.

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Topic starter Posted : 10/20/2025 5:35 pm
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Posted by: @dbmhoosier

Posted by: @spartans9312

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@dbmhoosier Arm them with enough (don't reply with nukes, that's stoopid) to push the Orcs into the stone age. Intel, weapons, Tech, sanctions, Orc frozen assets, blockade of ports (or empower Ukraine to do so). Russia started this crap, make the lives of the russian people so terrible that they fix their historically failed government and it's ideology. Stop slow rolling everything that has proven to "never" work. Isolate Russia from the rest of the planet. 

Do I know the exact tools and extent of the power of the western allies, no. But I know it has the ability, and has continued to play politics and Putin knows. Humanity needs this shit to stop. 

That help? 

Tomahawks seem to be the flavor of the day. I would also wager that there are even much more sophisticated system that we have no idea about. Also I question if the tomahawks are just a smoke screen (so to say) to draw attention away from other tech/ capabilities.     

Apparently Trump disagrees.

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1979952358495756652?t=uGObN33AGzUW8GmaahUL3Q&s=19

 

 

The history of that area is difficult. Witkoff says Eastern Ukraine should belong to Russia because the residents speak Russian. If I remember correctly, Ranger said in his experiences in the area they consider themselves Russian. 

 

They absolutely do.  I believe the polling has said that given a choice 90% would vote to join Russia.  They overwhelming speak Russian.

 

Not quite. At least not pre-war. Pre-war, the only part of Ukraine that was predominantly Russian was Crimea. Parts of Donetsk, Luhansk, and Zaporizhia also had large Russian populations, but none of those oblasts was anything other than majority Ukrainian - again, before the war.

 


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Posted : 10/21/2025 8:25 pm
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Not quite. At least not pre-war. Pre-war, the only part of Ukraine that was predominantly Russian was Crimea. Parts of Donetsk, Luhansk, and Zaporizhia also had large Russian populations, but none of those oblasts was anything other than majority Ukrainian – again, before the war.

This misinformation was corrected previously, but corrections don’t phase some people.


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Posted : 10/21/2025 10:10 pm
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Speaking of misinformation, Mas' pro-Russian propaganda thread on Ukrainian dead disappeared. I wonder if he deleted it in shame (highly unlikely since he has none) or it was deleted by admins because it was in fact pro-Russian propaganda. 

Based on his history here, I pictured him posting "2 million dead" Ukrainians with a smile on his face.


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Posted : 10/22/2025 12:01 pm
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Posted by: @dbmhoosier

Posted by: @spartans9312

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Posted by: @joe_hoopsier

@dbmhoosier Arm them with enough (don't reply with nukes, that's stoopid) to push the Orcs into the stone age. Intel, weapons, Tech, sanctions, Orc frozen assets, blockade of ports (or empower Ukraine to do so). Russia started this crap, make the lives of the russian people so terrible that they fix their historically failed government and it's ideology. Stop slow rolling everything that has proven to "never" work. Isolate Russia from the rest of the planet. 

Do I know the exact tools and extent of the power of the western allies, no. But I know it has the ability, and has continued to play politics and Putin knows. Humanity needs this shit to stop. 

That help? 

Tomahawks seem to be the flavor of the day. I would also wager that there are even much more sophisticated system that we have no idea about. Also I question if the tomahawks are just a smoke screen (so to say) to draw attention away from other tech/ capabilities.     

Apparently Trump disagrees.

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1979952358495756652?t=uGObN33AGzUW8GmaahUL3Q&s=19

 

 

The history of that area is difficult. Witkoff says Eastern Ukraine should belong to Russia because the residents speak Russian. If I remember correctly, Ranger said in his experiences in the area they consider themselves Russian. 

 

They absolutely do.  I believe the polling has said that given a choice 90% would vote to join Russia.  They overwhelming speak Russian.

 

  Numerous referendums have shown the high preference for Russian language and governance for more than 20 years in the eastern oblasts.

  The Ukranian response to the will of those citizens was to randomly attack with artillery and missile strikes, often in residential areas, such as Donetsk.

 


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Posted : 10/22/2025 12:59 pm
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https://twitter.com/ektrit/status/1980899824640880660

 

 


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Posted : 10/22/2025 4:51 pm
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What happened to Mas' Kremlin propaganda thread? Did I miss some fireworks while I was traveling?


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Posted : 10/22/2025 5:28 pm
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