Who knows what drove this guy to do what he did, but that’s obviously straight up domestic terrorism.
one thing that was interesting to me though was that the president and the press secretary both referenced violence against Christians in commenting on the attack.
I don’t think twice when the president says that because he appears to be nominally religious at best. But I was surprised to hear it from Leavitt because I’ve always been under the impression that a big chunk of Christians, particularly evangelicals, don’t consider Mormons to be Christians.
will there be any kind of blowback for that?
MAGA follower. He was anti-mormon and he acted on his worst instincts. Why? Because he had an assault rifle of course.
It doesn't take a lot of research to see that the common dominator is access to guns and ammo, not political party or any other issue (mental health, history of violence, gang affiliation, etc.)
You will never be able to change human behaviors en mass without dealing with the gun issue as well. No one has the discipline and forethought to estimate that a friend, family member, classmate, etc is about to "snap". Pray all you want. He just lit a church on fire and opened fire. Who does that? That guy! And the next guy too.
Proactive safeguarding includes a lot more gun control than what we have now. It just has to change.
Who knows what drove this guy to do what he did, but that’s obviously straight up domestic terrorism.
one thing that was interesting to me though was that the president and the press secretary both referenced violence against Christians in commenting on the attack.
I don’t think twice when the president says that because he appears to be nominally religious at best. But I was surprised to hear it from Leavitt because I’ve always been under the impression that a big chunk of Christians, particularly evangelicals, don’t consider Mormons to be Christians.
will there be any kind of blowback for that?
It's only anti-Christian if a liberal does it. This will blow over.
Who knows what drove this guy to do what he did, but that’s obviously straight up domestic terrorism.
one thing that was interesting to me though was that the president and the press secretary both referenced violence against Christians in commenting on the attack.
I don’t think twice when the president says that because he appears to be nominally religious at best. But I was surprised to hear it from Leavitt because I’ve always been under the impression that a big chunk of Christians, particularly evangelicals, don’t consider Mormons to be Christians.
will there be any kind of blowback for that?
It's only anti-Christian if a liberal does it. This will blow over.
Murder within the black community has conditioned us that it only matters if it is outside of your own demographic…
Hmmmm. I think the common denominator is unchecked mental health issues and loss of institutionalization. Further, we don't prosecute smaller crimes as harshly which could land people in jail, which could further allow us to identify (for things like red flag laws, I assume this guy bought his guns legally) and treat mental health conditions. Including institutionalizing them.It doesn’t take a lot of research to see that the common denominator is access to guns and ammo, not political party or any other issue (mental health, history of violence, gang affiliation, etc.)
To be fair, my view is as simplistic as yours but I don't think "just get rid of the guns" is going to solve the violence issue. Also, that bird has flown. There are more guns than people in the US.
Bullshit!
Criminals don't obey laws.
When will you anti-Constitution zealots get this simple fact through your thick skulls?
Should all blacks be severely prohibited from possessing any firearm?Who knows what drove this guy to do what he did, but that’s obviously straight up domestic terrorism.
one thing that was interesting to me though was that the president and the press secretary both referenced violence against Christians in commenting on the attack.
I don’t think twice when the president says that because he appears to be nominally religious at best. But I was surprised to hear it from Leavitt because I’ve always been under the impression that a big chunk of Christians, particularly evangelicals, don’t consider Mormons to be Christians.
will there be any kind of blowback for that?
It's only anti-Christian if a liberal does it. This will blow over.
Murder within the black community has conditioned us that it only matters if it is outside of your own demographic…
Statistics say yes.
MAGA follower. He was anti-mormon and he acted on his worst instincts. Why? Because he had an assault rifle of course.
It doesn't take a lot of research to see that the common dominator is access to guns and ammo, not political party or any other issue (mental health, history of violence, gang affiliation, etc.)
You will never be able to change human behaviors en mass without dealing with the gun issue as well. No one has the discipline and forethought to estimate that a friend, family member, classmate, etc is about to "snap". Pray all you want. He just lit a church on fire and opened fire. Who does that? That guy! And the next guy too.
Proactive safeguarding includes a lot more gun control than what we have now. It just has to change.
This is all spot on. I agree that things have to change, but I don't hold out high hopes that they will. Any type of meaningful/effective gun laws are and always have been off the table. I don't know what people are so afraid of that they need to be so heavily armed, but man - it's something deep.
Who knows what drove this guy to do what he did, but that’s obviously straight up domestic terrorism.
one thing that was interesting to me though was that the president and the press secretary both referenced violence against Christians in commenting on the attack.
I don’t think twice when the president says that because he appears to be nominally religious at best. But I was surprised to hear it from Leavitt because I’ve always been under the impression that a big chunk of Christians, particularly evangelicals, don’t consider Mormons to be Christians.
will there be any kind of blowback for that?
The whole thing is so weird to me. I believe he and his family belonged to a church, but not sure which denomination or how religious they were.
He spent time in Utah in 2010 after his tours, so you wonder if something happened there that made him start harboring resentment for LDS.
MAGA follower. He was anti-mormon and he acted on his worst instincts. Why? Because he had an assault rifle of course.
I'm not so sure I agree in this instance. First off, I am fine with assault rifle bans. But, this guy literally had a bunch of explosives on top of using gasoline and setting his truck ablaze once it was inside or partially inside the church.
Someone like this is likely to be McVeigh or Ted K. than someone deterred by not having an assault rifle.
It doesn’t take a lot of research to see that the common dominator is access to guns and ammo
Bullshit.
As an avid firearms collector and enthusiast, not once in my nearly 60 years on this earth has the thought crossed my mind to gear up and get loaded for bear with the intent to commit a mass shooting or some act of terror against any person or institution...and I have been both a Verizon and Xfinity customer FFS...VBSEG.
Hells bells I wouldn't even consider it if folks like you got their way and came for my guns, though let's be honest it wouldn't be you or folks like you that would actually come for my guns, you'd send other people...with GUNS.
A good friend will bail you out of jail, but your best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying "that was f***ing awesome"
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1972802336515826086
And just like that, another Babylon Bee article came true...
A good friend will bail you out of jail, but your best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying "that was f***ing awesome"
Any type of meaningful/effective gun laws are and always have been off the table.
Effective and meaningful gun laws have never been in the table.
The far left Colorado Democrats passed a number of gun laws in recent years. All of them focus on those who obey the law in gun transactions anyway. All of them impose more regulations, wait time and taxes. None of these laws get at the everyday gun crime happening almost every night.
For the 1000th time, mental health is a huge contributing factor, and if those with mental health issues simply could not get an AR-15 style weapon, we'd be much better off.
Would every mass shooting be prevented? Of course not. Would none of them be prevented? Of course not.
And also for the 1000th time, we are not talking about handguns, hunting rifles, shotguns, etc. Almost nobody wants a ban on ANY of those at a national level. Just treat AR-15s like hand grenades and rocket launchers. No legit public use close to being on par with the negative impact on public safety
"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451
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