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Posted by: @iunorth

@dbmhoosier I've come to understand people supporting Trump.  There are reasons for it, that make logical sense.  I have a lot of friends, and a lot of people I respect that support him.  Blind loyalty, like what you demonstrate on here though... says a lot more about what type of person you are.  Its kind of sad, actually.  Willful ignorance, actual stupidity, racism, bigotry... all these things become possibilities as potential reasons to blindly support someone like Donald Trump.

I would say the exact same things to someone that blindly supports someone like Ilhan Omar, maybe even AOC.  Blind, completely loyal, supporters of such fundamentally flawed, morally corrupt humans... makes for unserious people.  Unfortunately, there are a lot of unserious people now, on both sides of the aisle.  And they're choking out the actual serious people, that are capable of supporting causes, peoples, etc... without numbing their brains against the obvious stupid, wrong, vengeful, counterproductive things their leaders are saying and doing.

The left is far more blind and completely loyal than anyone on the right.  Go on X sometime and read what right wingers says.  We want all of the Epstein files released.  We want to be pulled out of Ukraine completely.  We don't want any funding going towards Israel.  There are plenty of things I disagree with Trump.  His fake vaccine, for example, was completely stupid.  I've critical of numerous appointments he has made.  That said, he's easily the best President of my lifetime.

 

Which nominee or appointment did you criticize before he/she was withdrawn, fired or resigned? You even thought Gaetz was great. Hegseth, RFK Jr (a long-time moonbat Democrat) and Tulsi are all lousy picks and you think they're great. You do not criticize President Trump ever. Your man-love for him is weird and creepy. 

By the way, we're not in Ukraine, you stopped calling for the Epstein files to be released after the President agreed with Bondi they shouldn't be released, and your opinion about the vaccine is stupid as hell.

 


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Posted : 10/02/2025 12:21 pm
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Pretty much all pre-existing conditions are a result of life style choices and as harsh as it may be to hear, you should have to pay a higher premium for those choices.

wait, things like cancer, asthma, lupus, epilepsy, high blood pressure, COPD, depression, anxiety, other mental disorders, allergies, hemophilia, kidney disease...

these all came from poor lifestyle choices?

You sure?

I'll give you that bad choices play a role in many cases of diabetes, obesity, heart disease, etc.  Though very fit people can be diabetic.  Tom Hanks? Remember the IU player Pat Graham?

Once again your logic is flawed

 


"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451

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Posted : 10/02/2025 12:21 pm
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Posted by: @dbmhoosier

Posted by: @iunorth

@dbmhoosier I've come to understand people supporting Trump.  There are reasons for it, that make logical sense.  I have a lot of friends, and a lot of people I respect that support him.  Blind loyalty, like what you demonstrate on here though... says a lot more about what type of person you are.  Its kind of sad, actually.  Willful ignorance, actual stupidity, racism, bigotry... all these things become possibilities as potential reasons to blindly support someone like Donald Trump.

I would say the exact same things to someone that blindly supports someone like Ilhan Omar, maybe even AOC.  Blind, completely loyal, supporters of such fundamentally flawed, morally corrupt humans... makes for unserious people.  Unfortunately, there are a lot of unserious people now, on both sides of the aisle.  And they're choking out the actual serious people, that are capable of supporting causes, peoples, etc... without numbing their brains against the obvious stupid, wrong, vengeful, counterproductive things their leaders are saying and doing.

The left is far more blind and completely loyal than anyone on the right.  Go on X sometime and read what right wingers says.  We want all of the Epstein files released.  We want to be pulled out of Ukraine completely.  We don't want any funding going towards Israel.  There are plenty of things I disagree with Trump.  His fake vaccine, for example, was completely stupid.  I've critical of numerous appointments he has made.  That said, he's easily the best President of my lifetime.

 

Which nominee or appointment did you criticize before he/she was withdrawn, fired or resigned? You even thought Gaetz was great. Hegseth, RFK Jr (a long-time moonbat Democrat) and Tulsi are all lousy picks and you think they're great. You do not criticize President Trump ever. Your man-love for him is weird and creepy. 

By the way, we're not in Ukraine, you stopped calling for the Epstein files to be released after the President agreed with Bondi they shouldn't be released, and your opinion about the vaccine is stupid as hell.

 

Bondi.  Many of the ones from the first administration. ACB was a bad pick 

 


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Posted : 10/02/2025 12:28 pm
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@mcm666 

This is almost certainly true.  The far left progressives run the party.

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/1973749594858131671?t=MAkNkRyd_q8PNyCbmxpEvg&s=19


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Posted : 10/02/2025 12:29 pm
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Posted by: @dbmhoosier

Posted by: @iunorth

@dbmhoosier I've come to understand people supporting Trump.  There are reasons for it, that make logical sense.  I have a lot of friends, and a lot of people I respect that support him.  Blind loyalty, like what you demonstrate on here though... says a lot more about what type of person you are.  Its kind of sad, actually.  Willful ignorance, actual stupidity, racism, bigotry... all these things become possibilities as potential reasons to blindly support someone like Donald Trump.

I would say the exact same things to someone that blindly supports someone like Ilhan Omar, maybe even AOC.  Blind, completely loyal, supporters of such fundamentally flawed, morally corrupt humans... makes for unserious people.  Unfortunately, there are a lot of unserious people now, on both sides of the aisle.  And they're choking out the actual serious people, that are capable of supporting causes, peoples, etc... without numbing their brains against the obvious stupid, wrong, vengeful, counterproductive things their leaders are saying and doing.

The left is far more blind and completely loyal than anyone on the right.  Go on X sometime and read what right wingers says.  We want all of the Epstein files released.  We want to be pulled out of Ukraine completely.  We don't want any funding going towards Israel.  There are plenty of things I disagree with Trump.  His fake vaccine, for example, was completely stupid.  I've critical of numerous appointments he has made.  That said, he's easily the best President of my lifetime.

 

 

The right on X want the epstein files released?

 

Not the influencers I've seen, including your dude catturd...

 

https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1963433276439187827

 


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Posted : 10/02/2025 12:30 pm
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@stollcpa 

That would be bad if it was true. 


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Topic starter Posted : 10/02/2025 12:36 pm
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Posted by: @carramrod

Pretty much all pre-existing conditions are a result of life style choices and as harsh as it may be to hear, you should have to pay a higher premium for those choices.

wait, things like cancer, asthma, lupus, epilepsy, high blood pressure, COPD, depression, anxiety, other mental disorders, allergies, hemophilia, kidney disease...

these all came from poor lifestyle choices?

You sure?

I'll give you that bad choices play a role in many cases of diabetes, obesity, heart disease, etc.  Though very fit people can be diabetic.  Tom Hanks? Remember the IU player Pat Graham?

Once again your logic is flawed

 

No clown. The most common pre-existing conditions are all behavior related. Don’t play gotcha with me you little shit. You’re a moron. 

 


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Posted : 10/02/2025 12:42 pm
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Posted by: @carramrod

No clown. The most common pre-existing conditions are all behavior related. Don’t play gotcha with me you little shit. You’re a moron. 

Angry much?

ever think of being civil?

ever try to back your arguments with FACTS?

Link? I have one.

The four most common pre-existing conditions are:

Alcohol and drug abuse
Asthma and COPD
Diabetes 
Mental health disorders

Maybe I give you #1 and #3, at least in SOME cases. Though my late father-in-law, an ex-Marine who walked 5 miles a day and skied into his 80s, never an ounce overweight, was diabetic.  

Tell me how my wife's asthma is behavior related.

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7001872/

 


"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451

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Posted : 10/02/2025 1:02 pm
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Posted by: @dbmhoosier

Bondi.  Many of the ones from the first administration. ACB was a bad pick 

You didn't criticize Bondi before she was confirmed. I did, and you defended her. 

 


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Posted : 10/02/2025 1:10 pm
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@carramrod 2009: A study by Harvard Medical School researchers found that Americans without health insurance had a 40% higher risk of death than those with private insurance, equating to roughly 45,000 deaths annually.  

so 45,000 a year.  year after year will get you to your millions save obama.  brain tumors.  certain cancers.  all kinds of shit that doesn't translate to slob living.  hell the fittest guy i ever knew was my high school coach.  died at 40 of cancer.  rode his bike with 15 balls on his back 20 miles each way to school.

before obama care and its bridge insurers could simply deny coverage.  period.  had cancer.  no coverage.  bad ticker.  no coverage.  not just jack up the rates.  literally deny coverage.  the recourse was employer-based plans.  so if you had skills you could go that route but again the pitfalls waiting for you were many


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Posted : 10/02/2025 1:16 pm
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@co-hoosier the pre-existing condition could have been remedied with two sentences.  but prior to obama no one wrote those two sentences


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Posted : 10/02/2025 1:18 pm
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@iunorth pic a topic and i'll debate it any time you want.  what i wrote was 100 percent accurate.


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Posted : 10/02/2025 1:20 pm
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@dbmhoosier of course they do.  they ran it when biden was in office.  he was a puppet.  to try and say both sides are bad is inane.  yes both sides have their warts.  one has policy that is far worse. it's why republicans control everything and improved what 88 percent of counties across the country or some shit


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Posted : 10/02/2025 1:21 pm
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Posted by: @shooter

Posted by: @carramrod

No clown. The most common pre-existing conditions are all behavior related. Don’t play gotcha with me you little shit. You’re a moron. 

Angry much?

ever think of being civil?

ever try to back your arguments with FACTS?

Link? I have one.

The four most common pre-existing conditions are:

Alcohol and drug abuse
Asthma and COPD
Diabetes 
Mental health disorders

Maybe I give you #1 and #3, at least in SOME cases. Though my late father-in-law, an ex-Marine who walked 5 miles a day and skied into his 80s, never an ounce overweight, was diabetic.  

Tell me how my wife's asthma is behavior related.

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7001872/

 

COPD and asthma is largely the result of smoking and obesity. Most diagnosed mental health disorders are fictitious as evidenced by the fact that diagnoses skyrocketed post ACA in the study you cited. And poor mental health stems from poor behaviors despite over medicalized dipshits like yourself insisting it’s biological without ever being able to prove it. 

Do not lecture me on civility when you capped your first post with “once again your logic is flawed” you cunt bitch. 

 

 


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Posted : 10/02/2025 1:21 pm
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@carramrod he's the last person to lecture anyone on civility.


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