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larsIU
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Posted by: @arthur-dent

@larsiu 

Apropos. Golf clap. 

Assimilation is the goal, I think. And I do mean....I think. Right? Shouldn't the immigrants coming to the US want to be.....AMERICAN. That doens't mean white or European but it does mean something, no?

Creating enclaves all over the country like Deaborn or Minneapolis isn't becoming American. I dunno. It's a tough nut to crack. 

 


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Posted : 11/07/2025 3:56 pm
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@larsiu 

Historically, Irish came and settled in enclaves along the coast. Germans settled in midwest enclaves, tows that had German newspapers and city meetings in German. Ohio allowed schools to teach bilingual German English in 1839 and wasn't repealed until WW1.

People eventually assimilate, it never has been immediate. 

The Know Nothings were very anti German and Irish. In particular, they were anti Catholic. If one doesn't want diversity, they were right. I don't believe so, but it follows. 


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Posted : 11/07/2025 4:08 pm
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dbmhoosier
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Posted by: @mcm666

@larsiu controlled immigration.  not floods of low skilled, poorly educated immigrants who haven't been properly vetted OR whose culture might not jive with the homies: hispanics, whites, blacks, asians etc.  what we see in parts of london is not what we want here. sorry. it's reality.

One of my coworker's daughter married a British guy last year and lives just outside London.  He says it's absolutely terrible there.  Half the country looks like Afghanistan.  She can't walk down the street without multiple chaperones.  It's awful and it's exactly what people like Zeke vote for.  I just can't understand.

 


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Posted : 11/07/2025 4:21 pm
UncleMark
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Posted by: @larsiu

Creating enclaves all over the country like Deaborn or Minneapolis isn’t becoming American. I dunno. It’s a tough nut to crack. 

We've had Germantowns and Chinatowns and Little Italys and Irish Hills for forever. It takes a few generations before differences and divisions fade.

 


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Posted : 11/07/2025 4:28 pm
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CO. Hoosier
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Posted by: @larsiu

Our immigration system is broken,

I don’t think our immigration system is broken.  (Some tweaks about work permits and asylum are necessary) What’s broken is the ways our officials apply it, and how they apply it  is the result of politics.  I’ve become pretty good friends with a German neural radiologist.  His journey to legal residency was very burdensome.  Yet we allow those with no or little skills, who would  certainly be a public burden, easy entry and some kind of legal status.  I agree we need immigrants to maintain the economy.  But that means the immigration must be for our benefit.  


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Posted : 11/07/2025 4:31 pm
UncleMark
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

I’ve become pretty good friends with a German neural radiologist.  His journey to legal residency was very burdensome.  

Getting my wife here legally and having her granted a work permit almost immediately was a long, cumbersome, and expensive process too. eMail order brides ain't cheap.


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Posted : 11/07/2025 4:42 pm
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larsIU
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Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @larsiu

Creating enclaves all over the country like Deaborn or Minneapolis isn’t becoming American. I dunno. It’s a tough nut to crack. 

We've had Germantowns and Chinatowns and Little Italys and Irish Hills for forever. It takes a few generations before differences and divisions fade.

 

True, but the racism was much more overt in those days. I'd think, these days, those changes would come quicker. We shall see. 

 


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Posted : 11/07/2025 4:46 pm
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@co-hoosier AI is here and not stopping.  We don't need immigration to maintain the economy.


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Topic starter Posted : 11/07/2025 5:39 pm
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@snarlcakes that is interesting.


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Posted : 11/07/2025 5:42 pm
UncleMark
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

@co-hoosier AI is here and not stopping.  We don't need immigration to maintain the economy.

Those AI roofers and landscapers and housekeepers are going to be great. 

 


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Posted : 11/07/2025 6:29 pm
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@unclemark robot housekeepers I just saw an ad for


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Posted : 11/07/2025 6:32 pm
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@unclemark and robotic migrant farmers.

The time is coming, but when there are robotic housekeepers, roofers, and migrant workers, there won't be factory workers either, programmers, investment advisors. 


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Posted : 11/07/2025 6:42 pm
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@unclemark oh, and also no semi truck drivers.

And no lawyers. This will anger the lawyers, but Bobby Fisher would have said a computer would never beat a grandmaster. Now a computer can beat Magnus not even on its best setting.


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Posted : 11/07/2025 6:46 pm
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@unclemark we have lawyers like Brad to fill those jobs.


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Topic starter Posted : 11/07/2025 7:00 pm
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Posted by: @arthur-dent

@unclemark oh, and also no semi truck drivers.

And no lawyers. This will anger the lawyers, but Bobby Fisher would have said a computer would never beat a grandmaster. Now a computer can beat Magnus not even on its best setting.

There is this company called Tesla.  I think the owner just got a trillion dollar dealer.  They solved the driverless car question.  

 


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Topic starter Posted : 11/07/2025 7:19 pm
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