Never thought I'd read something like this. Perception is reality.
Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan.
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Never thought I'd read something like this. Perception is reality.
just looking at the title “keeps sinking”, is crazy. Our program literally has no floor right now.
Enjoy it while it lasts. I have no doubt Cignetti has a few more good seasons in store for us but he won't be here forever and IU has not shown that they make the right decisions to sustain success in the key revenue sports.
Indiana basketball is as well-resourced as any program in the country. But with Hoosiers donors getting a taste of unimaginable football success, a lot of that money may be headed across the parking lot from Assembly Hall to Memorial Stadium.
This pretty much sums up the current state of the bbal mess. Why would any donor throw huge money at an 8-9 team when they can give it to football? It is a very very very hard sell after 25 years of flops. DD is probably the type of coach who could have done pretty decent in the knight era where you had four year players you could build up from day one but in the portal I am just not sure he can cut it with constant roster turnover.
Enjoy it while it lasts. I have no doubt Cignetti has a few more good seasons in store for us but he won't be here forever and IU has not shown that they make the right decisions to sustain success in the key revenue sports.
Very true. Two good seasons in a single sport does not mean IU athletics is in acceptable shape. Cignetti’s contract goes for 7-8 more seasons. I don’t know if he coaches all of them, but a fair number of coaches have worked into their 70s. And you can be damn sure the next coach won’t be as good. If Bryant Haines is somehow still here maybe he can carry on Cignetti’s legacy.
Enjoy it while it lasts. I have no doubt Cignetti has a few more good seasons in store for us but he won't be here forever and IU has not shown that they make the right decisions to sustain success in the key revenue sports.
Very true. Two good seasons in a single sport does not mean IU athletics is in acceptable shape. Cignetti’s contract goes for 7-8 more seasons. I don’t know if he coaches all of them, but a fair number of coaches have worked into their 70s. And you can be damn sure the next coach won’t be as good. If Bryant Haines is somehow still here maybe he can carry on Cignetti’s legacy.
With athletic dept revenue getting to be top third in the conference, it actually is acceptable shape.
And Mr. Miserable, it was not two good seasons in one sport. It was the sport that by far matters the most, and one season was very good and the other was the best possible season a team can have.
The CFB Champion is the king of college athletics, and that is IU. I know this is difficult for you.
yes but 2 seasons doesn't give the rest of the department a pass nor does it mean we can rest on our laurels. We must reproduce it year in and year out. That may not equate to national championships but it should mean we are in the discussion... and it should be the same for basketball. If we are so well endowed and on our way we should have no issue fixing basketball yet it seems to allude us
not to mention we got lucky as lucky can be with hiring Cig... no one other than Cig would have predicted this success not even you
This article about says it all. Awesome that we are now a juggernaut in football. But sad as hell we can't get out of our own way on basketball
yes but 2 seasons doesn't give the rest of the department a pass nor does it mean we can rest on our laurels. We must reproduce it year in and year out. That may not equate to national championships but it should mean we are in the discussion... and it should be the same for basketball. If we are so well endowed and on our way we should have no issue fixing basketball yet it seems to allude us
not to mention we got lucky as lucky can be with hiring Cig... no one other than Cig would have predicted this success not even you
The topic is IU athletics as a whole. The sports are not equal. Football is about 75% of our revenue and it's by far the biggest and most important college sport. IU athletics' fate rises and falls with football.
And no, we didn't just get lucky with Cig. Scott and IU identified him when no one else did, convinced him to come here, retained him when several huge programs did everything they could to get him, and gave him top resources. And it resulted in 16-0 national title and promising team for next season, plus way more revenue and exposure for IU.
That is in an inconvenient fact for people who want to be miserable and angry at IU 24/7.
I get the frustration with basketball, it's not good and disappointing and needs fixing. The results so far are not okay, especially since it's a sport we care a lot about. But when people start acting like the athletic dept isn't doing an overall good job that's just not true.
Two good years in football doesn’t undo the decades long shitshow fans had to endure in both sports.
Dolson identified DeVries and that turned out to be a disaster. He is no savant when it comes to hiring coaches.
Facilities were neglected for years and the one thing Glass gets credit for is upgrading them to passable status. But then you see what Texas Tech has and it makes IU look like a D3 program.
Cignetti is a diamond on a cigar band.
Maybe not. But one great year followed by a historic one sure as shit does in my book.Two good years in football doesn’t undo the decades long shitshow fans had to endure in both sports.
And please stop with all the "Dolson got lucky with Cig" bullshit. I didn't see any other P4 ADs lining up to hire him. Besides, who cares if luck was involved? SD brought him here, and that's all that matters.
Two good years in football doesn’t undo the decades long shitshow fans had to endure in both sports.
Dolson identified DeVries and that turned out to be a disaster. He is no savant when it comes to hiring coaches.
Facilities were neglected for years and the one thing Glass gets credit for is upgrading them to passable status. But then you see what Texas Tech has and it makes IU look like a D3 program.
Cignetti is a diamond on a cigar band.
Haha. Seek help.
... I didn't see any other P4 ADs lining up to hire him. ...I agree, it wasn't luck.
But, it was fortuitous timing. Some programs had their own 'Mike Woodsons' they had to give another year or two.
Then Cig's success followed by the Cig Effect bloodbath. Other fanbases are "I told you we needed to move on two years ago!" just like we say about a couple guys such as May. LOL But, how many would actually have hired a guy over 60? Dolson made a great call!
I think it was luck in relation to the level of winning and how quickly it happened. I don't think they ever thought we'd win a title in year 2. Now Cig may have believed that all along even in year 1. But I will never believe Dolson thought that. And if he did he's more gullible than I thought and then it makes even more sense as to why he hired DD.
yes but 2 seasons doesn't give the rest of the department a pass nor does it mean we can rest on our laurels. We must reproduce it year in and year out. That may not equate to national championships but it should mean we are in the discussion... and it should be the same for basketball. If we are so well endowed and on our way we should have no issue fixing basketball yet it seems to allude us
not to mention we got lucky as lucky can be with hiring Cig... no one other than Cig would have predicted this success not even you
The topic is IU athletics as a whole. The sports are not equal. Football is about 75% of our revenue and it's by far the biggest and most important college sport. IU athletics' fate rises and falls with football.
And no, we didn't just get lucky with Cig. Scott and IU identified him when no one else did, convinced him to come here, retained him when several huge programs did everything they could to get him, and gave him top resources. And it resulted in 16-0 national title and promising team for next season, plus way more revenue and exposure for IU.
That is in an inconvenient fact for people who want to be miserable and angry at IU 24/7.
I get the frustration with basketball, it's not good and disappointing and needs fixing. The results so far are not okay, especially since it's a sport we care a lot about. But when people start acting like the athletic dept isn't doing an overall good job that's just not true.
the article doesn't say anything about the rest of the athletic dept. it compared basketballs blunder to footballs meteoric rise and the transition of the fanbase as such. If you want to infer something that's on you. Is football the cash cow.... duh... it just took us 50 years to figure that out. So to say our athletic dept now somehow has it all figured out.. we can hope .. but I wouldn't assume. One bad move could send us spiraling backward.
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