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Posted by: @iunorth

@mushroomgod It just seems odd they haven't ever done it.  We needed something different in the ends of a number of games we've played.  We struggled, mightily, getting stops late in probably a dozen of our games.  Doesn't need to be more than a few minutes.  Just enough to counter other teams height advantages for a few minutes.  I very strongly suspect Reed Bailey would look different guarding and rebounding most teams 3/4 guys, than he has trying to guard and rebound with 5s.  

And you're oversimplifying it when you say he was shooting floaters against guys because they were 6-7.  Most teams we played had 5s bigger than that, even the lower end teams early in the year.  And per the point above, he was always matched up against their biggest and best post player.  Not saying they were all Mara, TKR, Cluff, like... but he's had effective games against teams with good bigs.  For whatever reason, its fizzled and fallen off, for the most part, in recent weeks.  

 

I agree it's strange that they've never played together.  I think what it comes down to is, all coaches have quirks.  Even with Bobby K., sometimes you'd wonder why he was playing this guy or that guy.  Our Coach Cig is perhaps the most rational HC ever......hard to find things to complain about!!

 


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Topic starter Posted : 02/13/2026 12:49 pm
IUNorth
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@mushroomgod Its been pretty obvious, to me, that CDD was implementing good "stuff" on both ends of the floor.  The various numbers you're providing, and the fact that our guys are putting them up against more difficult competition than they played in the past... seems to be numbers evidence that my eyes have been right about the sets, principles, styles CDD is implementing at IU.  

We WILL still have some frustrating games coming home this year.  But I'm excited to see what CDD can do this offseason, recruiting wise.  Portal kids will see these same things, and will know the numbers your posting.  And I can't wait to see what CDD's offense and defense look like with a little more athleticism and length.  


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Posted : 02/13/2026 12:52 pm
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I think it hrd to play both Bailey and Alexis together because the teams gets in foul trouble so easily.  He probably needs at least one of them throughout the game. 

I really like Bailey's ball skills.  I can see maybe why he doesn't take many 3 point shots.    They almost have to be when the shot clock is running down because when running the offense, I'd think you'd prefer Wilkerson, TD, Dorn or Sisley as the players to be having green lights to take em ASAP when open.   The other rotation guys it should be more situational. 


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Posted : 02/13/2026 1:19 pm
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Posted by: @redandrowdy

Conerway's biggest asset is his ability to take it to the hole and score off the drive. I thought he would be a better on ball defender, but I see him playing D with his hands a lot instead of his feet. The biggest thing to me is the fact he will totally disappear in a game. He's had some really good games, but then he's been non-existent in others. 

I'm not sure why Bailey tries to take everything to the rim, instead of stopping short of the contact and rising up from 8-10 feet. He's got the length to shoot over many defenders, but not the strength to challenge at the rim. I like him at the FT line, for the most part. I'm not as bullish on him as Cav is, but I think his game could be better. The potential is there. He is definitely being asked to play out of position. 

 

because just about anywhere you go in AAU or high school that's what they teach and instruct you to do. Drive to hole and get an and1. Or shoot 3's.  They almost scorn those who have a great mid range jumper.  My son does.  He's on the Under Armour Rise circuit. Maybe 1-2 mid range jumpers all game is what you'll see and that's it. It's ridiculous imo. Because half of these kids can't shoot free throws and miss the initial shot anyway. 

 


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Posted : 02/13/2026 2:45 pm
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IUNorth
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@hoosiers94 They're making a come back all the way up through college.  I still don't think the NBA values mid range much.  But I'm seeing it more and more at AAU, high school, and starting to see it more at college levels.  Analytics for NBA players don't always filter down to analytics for smaller, lesser skilled and athletic players.  I think college, high school, and AAU coaches and players are figuring out a good pull up jumper from 15 feet is one of the more difficult to guard, and easier to execute, shots in the game of basketball.


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Posted : 02/13/2026 3:38 pm
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Posted by: @iunorth

@hoosiers94 They're making a come back all the way up through college.  I still don't think the NBA values mid range much.  But I'm seeing it more and more at AAU, high school, and starting to see it more at college levels.  Analytics for NBA players don't always filter down to analytics for smaller, lesser skilled and athletic players.  I think college, high school, and AAU coaches and players are figuring out a good pull up jumper from 15 feet is one of the more difficult to guard, and easier to execute, shots in the game of basketball.

 

I have taught my son since 1st grade to "stop and pop". Shown him clips of Alford and many others from back in the day.  Hard to guard no one expects it and no one can predict it. Still on the teams he's on they still don't encourage it. But when goes off and rips it for 30 shooting mostly mid range jumpers they never take him out Smile

 


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Posted : 02/13/2026 3:47 pm
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Posted by: @mushroomgod

I agree it's strange that they've never played together. 

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty damn sure they were on the floor together -- briefly -- in one of our recent games...

...and now I'm thinking it may have been Bailey and Sisley that I'm remembering.

Getting old ain't for sissies.


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Posted : 02/13/2026 5:33 pm
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