I think it's probably more about having strong support but still being able to coast in that Mich Football shadow a bit.
They had solid NIL and will, but May was basically cold calling and going door-to-door to get it from what ppl were saying. It wasn't just waiting for him when he showed up.
I think it's probably more about having strong support but still being able to coast in that Mich Football shadow a bit.
They had solid NIL and will, but May was basically cold calling and going door-to-door to get it from what ppl were saying. It wasn't just waiting for him when he showed up.
Congratulations to DeVries & the team on a great win against Purdue. Beating those guys will always be a big deal. At the present time IU is favored in only 4 of the remaining 10 games. If that result comes true the team will end the regular season at 18-13 and 9-11 in the conference. In recent years many IU fans have become use to such seasons. I refuse to be accustomed to the mediocrity and anything less than an NCAA tournament invite is less than acceptable. Probably need to be 20-11 and 11-9 to get into the Big Dance.
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Congratulations to DeVries & the team on a great win against Purdue. Beating those guys will always be a big deal. At the present time IU is favored in only 4 of the remaining 10 games. If that result comes true the team will end the regular season at 18-13 and 9-11 in the conference. In recent years many IU fans have become use to such seasons. I refuse to be accustomed to the mediocrity and anything less than an NCAA tournament invite is less than acceptable. Probably need to be 20-11 and 11-9 to get into the Big Dance.
When you have nine straight seasons of basically crap yes people are used to 9-11 and some did cartwheels with woodson just making the tourney barely. It will take several straight seasons of making the tourney and winning a game or two for many peoples expectations to elevate once again. To some now just beating purdue last night makes the whole season. But that is where the program is at now.
Now we have hope after Rutgers And Purdue wins. Can see where could pull out some wins with TC getting healthy and now with the emergence of Dorn, we now see what DD was putting together. Does that mean we will make the dance? No it just means we are once again back on the merry go round called hope
Now we have hope after Rutgers And Purdue wins. Can see where could pull out some wins with TC getting healthy and now with the emergence of Dorn, we now see what DD was putting together. Does that mean we will make the dance? No it just means we are once again back on the merry go round called hope
If fans tend to go to big extremes I saw it under Woodson over and over . Lose four or five in a row we are the worst team ever. Win a couple in a row and we are back baby and the coach is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Pretty much way the program has been for a decade now but maybe it will change. Only time will tell.
Yeah it's always very enjoyable to beat Purdue and especially if they're ranked and we aren't ! That said we are far from "back". Which I don't think anyone is saying .. the proverbial hope line is more like it. Still daunting task ahead with the schedule as it is. 18-13 and 9-11 doesn't get us in. I think 20-11 and 11-9 is where we need to be. that's 6 more wins... hard for me to see 6 more wins on the schedule but hey never know. and totally agree with where the level of acceptance of mediocrity is... unreal. To me just making the tournament isn't enough either. We should be a 2nd weekend team pretty much year in and year out with a run to FF 2 otimes per decade is what I'd love to see. Lofty yes, attainable... can be , not easy but
@bigmike There are advanced analytics models that have IU "favored" or "expected" (whichever term you prefer) to win seven of the final ten games: UCLA (by .6) USC (2.5), Wisconsin (7.2), Oregon (12.8), Northwestern (11.2), Michigan State (.2) and Minnesota (10.4) with Ohio State being a .2 loss. I think that's overly optimistic but Torvik still has IU listed with a finishing record of 20-11 (11-9) and a 92.2% chance to make the NCAA Tournament. I think it's a tall task but it's a better chance than my boy Lloyd Christmas had.
@hoosiers94 I think Dusty May being a guy that we likely would have had, if IU were taking being elite just a smidge more seriously... is jading the realities of how difficult it is to meet what should be the overall expectations for IU basketball, immediately in year 1. There are a handful of guys recently, like May, that have had immediate success. Tommy Lloyd, John Scheyer, Kevin Young... to name a few. But there many, many, many more that took a year or two to establish a program that would meet those conference contending + Sweet 16 level teams, annually. And there are programs that I would contend were "higher on the food chain" than IU is... that weren't able to hire a guy that would have that immediate level of success... Kentucky, Louisville, UNC, UConn, Florida, UCLA... blue bloods, like IU, that have had much more recent success than IU.
Outside Dusty May... there wasn't a can't miss guy out there. Some are saying Beard would have been that guy. Why? His Ole Miss teams the last couple years are both mediocre, and miserable to watch play... Cronin, fake gangster with his suits and macho crap in his pressers... average teams at UCLA, that he slams at every turn... We got a good college basketball coach. We got a guy that runs a fun to follow, modern offense. We got a guy that is teaching principles that I think Indiana fans will really grow to love, when he's able to get just a little higher caliber roster to run them.
Would it be "ok" if he missed the NCAA in his first season? Of course not. Contrary to what many have said, this roster has already shown its good enough to be an NCAA tournament caliber team when its focused and playing with energy. Those things he should be able coach in to most any team. But despite that, and despite not having an impactful B10 level big, there ARE pretty easy to see good things he's doing. And its more than reasonable to think that how he set his roster up, and who he's signed for 26, that he'll have a better roster next year than he did this year. The math likely makes that a reasonable likelihood, if nothing else.
I rag on Purdue every chance I get. And beating them, for sure, isn't any sort of sign that CDD will get the job done at IU. Woodson beat them plenty. But how we beat them, was impressive. We didn't shoot out of our minds, the refs didn't gift us anything, we had some bad stretches... and we still controlled most of the game.
Being a bubble team is not good enough. But that doesn't mean there aren't things to be optimistic and excited about.
I doubt anyone really thinks DK will be booted after one year. I think many, including myself, know how this will end, so we're simply ticked IU will essentially have a lame-duck coach for at least two more seasons ... and we'll have to go through the same shit yet again.
I understand the hopes and dreams, but DK isn't the guy. He'll have some good moments--and may even enjoy some modicum of success--but this regime will end like the others. Therefore, we, as fans, are stuck in limbo until the admin finally gets this right ... if it ever does.
Maybe I'm a fair weather fan, but I'd rather just see losses pile up so this can end as soon as possible. It's early, I know, but DK is a whiff. And, if I want to stick with the golf analogy, I could say IU has the yips when it comes to hiring basketball coaches.
Bingo we know he gets three years and the ceiling is probably ncaa bubble and maybe one tourney win max. We know how it ends yet we have to sit through three years of it
You need to quit letting them suck you into their pit of DOOM & GLOOM.
@arioznahoosier4554 You got that right Robert. For many who never experienced national championships the bar is very low among the fans. I'm an old-timer from the days of Knight and have yet to forget the three national championships his teams won. Where I'm at in central Michigan, the MSU Spartan faithful have seen Izzo led teams go to the national tournament for 27 consecutive years. Those results are the definition of success.
DeVries hodgepodge of mid-major misfits just took down a senior-laden Purdue team that has been playing together for years. As Cignetti would say with a nod, "Not bad."
