Looking at a couple articles the writers indicate freshmen on NCAA division one teams play between 14 to 19% of total available team minutes per game. The numbers come out to 28 minutes (at 14%) to 38 minutes per game (at 19%).
(200 total team player minutes per game = 5 players X 40 minutes)
In Karvala, Manhertz and Alexander-Moody, DeVries has recruited 3 very good high school prospects but how much will any of these players contribute during the 26-27 season? (Guess we include Acimovic as a redshirt frosh if he's still with the team.)
I realize I am asking an unfair question because the roster construction for the 26-27 team has not been set. Practices are going to take place sometime down the road so we don't know how the frosh players are performing.
I'd like the freshmen get 30 total minutes per game. DeVries has many times stated his team development process involves freshmen. Does development involve playing time?
How many minutes would you like to see the freshmen play next year?
Looking at a couple articles the writers indicate freshmen on NCAA division one teams play between 14 to 19% of total available team minutes per game. The numbers come out to 28 minutes (at 14%) to 38 minutes per game (at 19%).
(200 total team player minutes per game = 5 players X 40 minutes)
In Karvala, Manhertz and Alexander-Moody, DeVries has recruited 3 very good high school prospects but how much will any of these players contribute during the 26-27 season? (Guess we include Acimovic as a redshirt frosh if he's still with the team.)
I realize I am asking an unfair question because the roster construction for the 26-27 team has not been set. Practices are going to take place sometime down the road so we don't know how the frosh players are performing.
I'd like the freshmen get 30 total minutes per game. DeVries has many times stated his team development process involves freshmen. Does development involve playing time?
How many minutes would you like to see the freshmen play next year?
i would base them on what Sisley got. He was ranked around the same as them I think? I don’t expect any of them to be a starter or even a 6th man (on a good top 25 team). I also don’t expect us to be a good team so who knows how much they will play.
I think the answer is 42.
I hope some Frosh get minutes. I dont see the point of not letting guys develop in actual games. Sure manage it, to win games. But theres usually opportunities, but often seem to slip past. Surely can start by teaching a frosh to at least ball hawk without fouling a lot.
I didn't understand the Jasai Miles love by DeVries. No disrespect to Miles but he couldn't handle the ball or shoot it. When asked about Miles his response was "he gives us energy." Heck, give me a couple Red Bulls and a couple shots of espresso and I'll give him some energy.Looking at a couple articles the writers indicate freshmen on NCAA division one teams play between 14 to 19% of total available team minutes per game. The numbers come out to 28 minutes (at 14%) to 38 minutes per game (at 19%).
(200 total team player minutes per game = 5 players X 40 minutes)
In Karvala, Manhertz and Alexander-Moody, DeVries has recruited 3 very good high school prospects but how much will any of these players contribute during the 26-27 season? (Guess we include Acimovic as a redshirt frosh if he's still with the team.)
I realize I am asking an unfair question because the roster construction for the 26-27 team has not been set. Practices are going to take place sometime down the road so we don't know how the frosh players are performing.
I'd like the freshmen get 30 total minutes per game. DeVries has many times stated his team development process involves freshmen. Does development involve playing time?
How many minutes would you like to see the freshmen play next year?
i would base them on what Sisley got. He was ranked around the same as them I think? I don’t expect any of them to be a starter or even a 6th man (on a good top 25 team). I also don’t expect us to be a good team so who knows how much they will play.
I'm with you. Hopefully Alexander-Moody, Karvala or one of the other guys can find the floor for a few minutes. It's good for their development as players plus I've got to think high school recruits will notice DeVries use of freshmen players.I hope some Frosh get minutes. I dont see the point of not letting guys develop in actual games. Sure manage it, to win games. But theres usually opportunities, but often seem to slip past. Surely can start by teaching a frosh to at least ball hawk without fouling a lot.
It's a double-edged sword with some freshmen. If they don't play much, they're likely to bolt for more playing time. If they play decent minutes and have some success, they'll enter the portal and look for a bigger payday.
This isn't applicable to all freshmen, of course (see Purdue), but it seems fairly common.
@gthomas If they are good enough you pay them and they don't enter the portal. As things are today with the portal and NIL, there's no escaping paying them what they are worth. You either pay to keep them or pay to replace them.
I think the answer is 42.
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Think Moody just went for 55 in a big invitational something or other. That puts him on a pure bucket watch and a step toward being a key contributor.
We need to add one more high level frosh decommit and call this class the Fresh Four.
I too am gonna bet on Alexander-Moody to be the top frosh contributor for next year. He's performed at a high level against some solid competition and physically looks to be more ready to play college basketball than the other two players.Think Moody just went for 55 in a big invitational something or other. That puts him on a pure bucket watch and a step toward being a key contributor.
We need to add one more high level frosh decommit and call this class the Fresh Four.
Ideally it would be nice if the 4th freshman add was a Big.
I can only imagine how Bob Knight might answer: "Coach, how many minutes might the incoming 3 freshmen play in the upcoming season?".
I will humor the intent behind the discussion and just say that in 2027, the danger is losing freshmen who play well or play extended development minutes.
Say all 3 play 25-30 minutes a game and score between 6-11ppg. What keeps them in Bloomington after the season in this day and age?
The current model suggests development occurs on other "lower tier" D1 teams before a player transfers to the Big Ten when they are ready to make a run for it.
You've got a football coach who has gone 27-2 in 2 seasons with a national championship who cant convince a 5 star freshman in his own backyard to come to Indiana. What does that tell you about the state of affairs with NIL and player contracts?
The only metrics will be how much the players are paid and whether they not only win next year, but are then projected to win more in 27-28.
If DeVries wins 25 games and looks like they have a chance for a conference championship the following year, he might be able to convince a few good players to stick around. Otherwise, we are looking at a potential cycle of unresolved and recurring mediocrity in basketball.
@tr32 The answer to the question of what keeps them in Bloomington is: money. Until something changes or the NIL bubble pops, most players will go where they get paid. And I don't really blame them, and I don't think we ever go back to the old days where you couldn't even have a photo in a charity fundraiser, but something involving contracts/real commitments needs to happen.
Maybe another way to comment on the discussion is to say, name all the graduating seniors who played big freshman minutes for the same team? Purdue has 3. Who else? Cooper from MSU? At least he was a true senior. But players who play 4 years at high minutes is downright rare to find now.
So there are 3 scenarios that work for the 3 incoming freshmen:
1.) they dont play alot and stick around because its their best option.
2.) they play back up roles to transfers who have an exceptional season.
3.) IU pays enough to not only return them as sophomores, but also pay more for the following Chase Branham class of 27.
Another way to put it, we wont see these 3 as seniors unless DeVries does an A+ job of coaching and winning.