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Posted by: @drjb

there has been a noticeable drop in off balance/30' 3 point jacks as of late

so there's that 

Except that means Tucker DeVries can't find an open shot now.

 


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Posted : 01/09/2026 8:55 am
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@hoosiers94 He's 12-3, and 3-1, and they were competitive in every one of their losses.  So I'm not sure he's needed to make a ton of major changes, thus far.  There's no way for you or me to know this... but it appears like he's been fairly stubborn sticking with some basic tenets of what he wants his program to be.  An example would be how much ball pressure we're putting on the ball on the perimeter, despite racking up fouls, and giving up too many free throws, at times.  To me, that seems to be something he's digging in on, and just forcing, because he probably wants that to become a hallmark of his IU program.  I love that, as frustrating as the fouling has been, at times.  But... an example of him adjusting now that we're in B10 season, was the modified 2-3 zone he played for some minutes against Washington.  That move changed the flow and dynamic of that game.  

Some other signs of growth... Tayton seems to be playing much more under control the last handful of games.  Something's off with Tucker, and Conor has stepped up and filled that void... coaching?  Gotta think at least a little bit.  Tucker hasn't forced the issue, and has been pretty good in other areas to help us win.  Again, coaching?  Maybe, maybe not.  But adjustments, by someone, have been made.  He's done a pretty good job managing Bailey and Alexis minutes.  Essentially whoever is playing better, whoever is the better matchup.  Its been pretty rare that they both play a lot of minutes, and both have good output games, stats wise.  I see that as both a challenge for CDD to get them to both play well, but also give him kudos for not just sticking them with the same roles, and rolling with the results (that's largely what Woodson did).  And finally, I think since the Minnesota game, he's gradually improved how consistent we are with our ball and player movement.  That's also something I see as his biggest challenge, because I don't think he's come far enough on that effort, for us to compete with the top 2-3 teams in the conference.  But it is getting better.

If that one thing continues to get better, I think we're very comfortably an NCAA tournament team.. maybe a 2nd weekend level team.  If it doesn't, I see a battle on the bubble.  Which would be a big disappointment.  

Right now... 12-3, 3-1, has a road B10 win under his belt, Top 30 in both offense and defense efficiency, top 25 overall... Solid start.  What he does to help the team improve from here, or not, will finish up the story of his first year.

My issue with you isn't as much of the substance behind the statements you're making... its comments like "lipstick on a pig"...  I don't believe IU is a "pig".  I get the point of what you're saying, they're not as good as I make them out to be... or not as good as the hopes that I have for them to be.  But I honestly think I'm more than a little bit more balanced with my posts, than you are.  I've been on here venting about them plenty.  Maybe you've missed those posts?  And maybe I've missed the ones where you were positive about this team.  Because there are, obviously, positive things happening.  At this point in the season, its one of the best teams we've had in a decade.  And it IS the most fun team to watch and follow, for me anyway, since the 16 team.  I do get the concerns.  I list them out routinely.  Here they are again... Consistency in effort and focus, showing itself in ball and player movement.  Bailey's inconsistencies with toughness in the paint.  Allowing other teams, at times, to dictate physicality.  That one ties in with my first concern, but its a specific aspect of it that a team built like Indiana can't ever take its focus away from.  If we're not dictating aggression and physicality, we're not naturally gifted enough to not get exposed by those things.  The Louisville game is a perfect example of this... the first 10 minutes, we allowed them to dictate the speed, physicality...everything.  Whatever changed, changed dramatically, and we became the aggressor the rest of that game, basically... and we controlled long portions of the rest of that game.

I don't know how the next few weeks are going to go.  We have some REALLY difficult games.  Games that obviously top 10 teams wouldn't likely win, in some cases.  Maybe we do go one and whatever over that stretch?  I'll be on here venting if we do, I'm sure.  But maybe he keeps improving them?  Maybe Tucker gets back whatever he's been missing, and has some big games again?  This team is closer to Purdue than the Rob Phinisee from the corner team was... so maybe we play well and beat those A-holes at home?  Saying things like that "can't happen"... it's like nails on a chalk board, for me.  And I'm surprised as someone that played soccer at IU, that you have that mentality.  You, of all people, should know what a grind a college sports season is.  And how much opportunity for improvement there is within a season.  IU has that same opportunity.  And its exciting, to me, that we're already pretty good.


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Posted : 01/09/2026 10:05 am
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We've also out rebounded our last 2 B1G opponents both defensively and offensively. I'd say thats a solid trend.


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Posted : 01/09/2026 10:46 am
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@surjay Great point... I forgot to include that one.  After one of their wins before New Years, where one of the negatives was our rebounding, he mentioned the need to keep working on that.  Guards coming down to help clear boards, has been very helpful, and I'm sure that's been something he's focused on and emphasized.  Bailey, and DeVries, actually do a pretty good job occupying their own men, while others are cleaning up boards.  Small things that probably go unnoticed by many.  The question remains how it'll work out against the monster teams we've yet to play, like Michigan and Purdue.


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Posted : 01/09/2026 10:53 am
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@hoosiers94 He's 12-3, and 3-1, and they were competitive in every one of their losses.  So I'm not sure he's needed to make a ton of major changes, thus far.  There's no way for you or me to know this... but it appears like he's been fairly stubborn sticking with some basic tenets of what he wants his program to be.  An example would be how much ball pressure we're putting on the ball on the perimeter, despite racking up fouls, and giving up too many free throws, at times.  To me, that seems to be something he's digging in on, and just forcing, because he probably wants that to become a hallmark of his IU program.  I love that, as frustrating as the fouling has been, at times.  But... an example of him adjusting now that we're in B10 season, was the modified 2-3 zone he played for some minutes against Washington.  That move changed the flow and dynamic of that game.  

Some other signs of growth... Tayton seems to be playing much more under control the last handful of games.  Something's off with Tucker, and Conor has stepped up and filled that void... coaching?  Gotta think at least a little bit.  Tucker hasn't forced the issue, and has been pretty good in other areas to help us win.  Again, coaching?  Maybe, maybe not.  But adjustments, by someone, have been made.  He's done a pretty good job managing Bailey and Alexis minutes.  Essentially whoever is playing better, whoever is the better matchup.  Its been pretty rare that they both play a lot of minutes, and both have good output games, stats wise.  I see that as both a challenge for CDD to get them to both play well, but also give him kudos for not just sticking them with the same roles, and rolling with the results (that's largely what Woodson did).  And finally, I think since the Minnesota game, he's gradually improved how consistent we are with our ball and player movement.  That's also something I see as his biggest challenge, because I don't think he's come far enough on that effort, for us to compete with the top 2-3 teams in the conference.  But it is getting better.

If that one thing continues to get better, I think we're very comfortably an NCAA tournament team.. maybe a 2nd weekend level team.  If it doesn't, I see a battle on the bubble.  Which would be a big disappointment.  

Right now... 12-3, 3-1, has a road B10 win under his belt, Top 30 in both offense and defense efficiency, top 25 overall... Solid start.  What he does to help the team improve from here, or not, will finish up the story of his first year.

My issue with you isn't as much of the substance behind the statements you're making... its comments like "lipstick on a pig"...  I don't believe IU is a "pig".  I get the point of what you're saying, they're not as good as I make them out to be... or not as good as the hopes that I have for them to be.  But I honestly think I'm more than a little bit more balanced with my posts, than you are.  I've been on here venting about them plenty.  Maybe you've missed those posts?  And maybe I've missed the ones where you were positive about this team.  Because there are, obviously, positive things happening.  At this point in the season, its one of the best teams we've had in a decade.  And it IS the most fun team to watch and follow, for me anyway, since the 16 team.  I do get the concerns.  I list them out routinely.  Here they are again... Consistency in effort and focus, showing itself in ball and player movement.  Bailey's inconsistencies with toughness in the paint.  Allowing other teams, at times, to dictate physicality.  That one ties in with my first concern, but its a specific aspect of it that a team built like Indiana can't ever take its focus away from.  If we're not dictating aggression and physicality, we're not naturally gifted enough to not get exposed by those things.  The Louisville game is a perfect example of this... the first 10 minutes, we allowed them to dictate the speed, physicality...everything.  Whatever changed, changed dramatically, and we became the aggressor the rest of that game, basically... and we controlled long portions of the rest of that game.

I don't know how the next few weeks are going to go.  We have some REALLY difficult games.  Games that obviously top 10 teams wouldn't likely win, in some cases.  Maybe we do go one and whatever over that stretch?  I'll be on here venting if we do, I'm sure.  But maybe he keeps improving them?  Maybe Tucker gets back whatever he's been missing, and has some big games again?  This team is closer to Purdue than the Rob Phinisee from the corner team was... so maybe we play well and beat those A-holes at home?  Saying things like that "can't happen"... it's like nails on a chalk board, for me.  And I'm surprised as someone that played soccer at IU, that you have that mentality.  You, of all people, should know what a grind a college sports season is.  And how much opportunity for improvement there is within a season.  IU has that same opportunity.  And its exciting, to me, that we're already pretty good.

1. I do get what a grind a season can be.. I played from 90-93. We didn't win the national championship in any of those years.  That was our goal each season. And I can tell not publicly but privately Coach Yeagley and all of us looked upon those season as somewhat of failures.  His ambitions mellowed with time or rather his categorizing the seasons and their lack of a title did 

2. again I watched IU basketball, some of the players being my friends most especially Matt Nover and Ross Hales.   So my experience as a student in Bloomington as it relates to basketball was a rather outstanding run. And that's what I want and will only accept. Title or not we were feared each and every game.  As we were on the pitch.  I'm not sure of our  exact home record those 4 years but I'm betting we lost maybe 1-2 games. 

3. I too have seen some improvement with adjusting personnel, not as much with matchup and scheme but some. But not enough for a roster that really needs it. 

4.  I look at this roster and I see what it is. I can surmise its potential or lack there of.. so  if you want to wish for things to happen that I just don't see happening that's your prerogative... I see it as setting myself up for disappointment I don't see this team as a tournament team for certain. Best I see them is they may squeak in... but they won't go anywhere.  And hence the end result is no better than Bigfoot.  Now I will say the culture and the appearance is a whole lot better.  Woodson was a disease. So am I happy he's gone. You bet.  But replacing him with a "nice" guy who can be more appropriate and a better ambassador for the University is only marginally better.  

and most of what you're stating about physicality and dictation and movement etc are all standard operating procedures for a team to be successful in today's game. As you so succinctly put it to me a few days ago , no shit Sherlock :). U referenced even Steph Curry has bad games.  Little different.  This dude has struggled all year with a few exceptions sprinkled in , take away the mental picture they painted for us of who he is and what he will be and evaluate him as a collective whole. Is he a terrible basketball player, no he's not terrible but he's been terrible in the role he's been tasked with this year. 
I also task you with evaluating DD without rose colored glasses.  Again is he better than Woodson , yes. But don't you think as a coach on the upswing being given this opportunity you'd be right as the mail ready.  I mean we have trouble still running out of bounds plays... not being called at proper time and then not being executed with any sort of memory from the players. That's coaching. You talk about periods of time where the ball sticks .. and it does too often. That's coaching.  Are they improving a little 

you remember RMK's comments about winning.  Everyone has the will to win not everyone has the will to prepare to win.  That's where I think our issues lie. In preparation or lack there of. 
I'm too harsh for you I get it. You're too Pollyanna for me. 
and why is that you can deem "you have a problem with me". This isn't your forum it's a paid site where all kinds of us can gather and render our opinion.  Doesn't make any of more right than any other.  
I can agree to let you have your overly Polly Anna  opinions only if you can allow me to have my overly harsh ones.  At the end of the day I truly believe what we want is the same thing. To be a team that is feared again day in and day out because that then means we have a roster that could win it all any year ... we aren't even close to that. And I for one do not think DD is going to take us there.  So why would I want to waste another year with him if I don't think he can deliver that.  And yes I know they are firing him after this year.  Economics dictate that ... unfortunately because it doesn't means they shouldn't.  They just won't 

proof will be in the pudding.  If we make it further than I thought it's bonus, if we don't make it as far as you think it's disappointing... I guess I like to temper my enthusiasm unless I see it worth exuding it 

 


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Posted : 01/09/2026 12:30 pm
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@hoosiers94 He's 12-3, and 3-1, and they were competitive in every one of their losses.  So I'm not sure he's needed to make a ton of major changes, thus far.  There's no way for you or me to know this... but it appears like he's been fairly stubborn sticking with some basic tenets of what he wants his program to be.  An example would be how much ball pressure we're putting on the ball on the perimeter, despite racking up fouls, and giving up too many free throws, at times.  To me, that seems to be something he's digging in on, and just forcing, because he probably wants that to become a hallmark of his IU program.  I love that, as frustrating as the fouling has been, at times.  But... an example of him adjusting now that we're in B10 season, was the modified 2-3 zone he played for some minutes against Washington.  That move changed the flow and dynamic of that game.  

Some other signs of growth... Tayton seems to be playing much more under control the last handful of games.  Something's off with Tucker, and Conor has stepped up and filled that void... coaching?  Gotta think at least a little bit.  Tucker hasn't forced the issue, and has been pretty good in other areas to help us win.  Again, coaching?  Maybe, maybe not.  But adjustments, by someone, have been made.  He's done a pretty good job managing Bailey and Alexis minutes.  Essentially whoever is playing better, whoever is the better matchup.  Its been pretty rare that they both play a lot of minutes, and both have good output games, stats wise.  I see that as both a challenge for CDD to get them to both play well, but also give him kudos for not just sticking them with the same roles, and rolling with the results (that's largely what Woodson did).  And finally, I think since the Minnesota game, he's gradually improved how consistent we are with our ball and player movement.  That's also something I see as his biggest challenge, because I don't think he's come far enough on that effort, for us to compete with the top 2-3 teams in the conference.  But it is getting better.

If that one thing continues to get better, I think we're very comfortably an NCAA tournament team.. maybe a 2nd weekend level team.  If it doesn't, I see a battle on the bubble.  Which would be a big disappointment.  

Right now... 12-3, 3-1, has a road B10 win under his belt, Top 30 in both offense and defense efficiency, top 25 overall... Solid start.  What he does to help the team improve from here, or not, will finish up the story of his first year.

My issue with you isn't as much of the substance behind the statements you're making... its comments like "lipstick on a pig"...  I don't believe IU is a "pig".  I get the point of what you're saying, they're not as good as I make them out to be... or not as good as the hopes that I have for them to be.  But I honestly think I'm more than a little bit more balanced with my posts, than you are.  I've been on here venting about them plenty.  Maybe you've missed those posts?  And maybe I've missed the ones where you were positive about this team.  Because there are, obviously, positive things happening.  At this point in the season, its one of the best teams we've had in a decade.  And it IS the most fun team to watch and follow, for me anyway, since the 16 team.  I do get the concerns.  I list them out routinely.  Here they are again... Consistency in effort and focus, showing itself in ball and player movement.  Bailey's inconsistencies with toughness in the paint.  Allowing other teams, at times, to dictate physicality.  That one ties in with my first concern, but its a specific aspect of it that a team built like Indiana can't ever take its focus away from.  If we're not dictating aggression and physicality, we're not naturally gifted enough to not get exposed by those things.  The Louisville game is a perfect example of this... the first 10 minutes, we allowed them to dictate the speed, physicality...everything.  Whatever changed, changed dramatically, and we became the aggressor the rest of that game, basically... and we controlled long portions of the rest of that game.

I don't know how the next few weeks are going to go.  We have some REALLY difficult games.  Games that obviously top 10 teams wouldn't likely win, in some cases.  Maybe we do go one and whatever over that stretch?  I'll be on here venting if we do, I'm sure.  But maybe he keeps improving them?  Maybe Tucker gets back whatever he's been missing, and has some big games again?  This team is closer to Purdue than the Rob Phinisee from the corner team was... so maybe we play well and beat those A-holes at home?  Saying things like that "can't happen"... it's like nails on a chalk board, for me.  And I'm surprised as someone that played soccer at IU, that you have that mentality.  You, of all people, should know what a grind a college sports season is.  And how much opportunity for improvement there is within a season.  IU has that same opportunity.  And its exciting, to me, that we're already pretty good.

 

We are 3-1 but the three wins are against teams that are a combined 1-11 in big ten play. Woodson started out 4-1 last year vs the bad teams and then just tanked when he had to start playing the better teams. So for me its hard to get too excited until I see what we can do againt teams like Purdue and Michigan State on Tuesday.  I don't know how good Nebraska really is since I have not seen them play but that is a home game you have to win imo.

 


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Posted by: @iunorth

@hoosiers94 He's 12-3, and 3-1, and they were competitive in every one of their losses.  So I'm not sure he's needed to make a ton of major changes, thus far.  There's no way for you or me to know this... but it appears like he's been fairly stubborn sticking with some basic tenets of what he wants his program to be.  An example would be how much ball pressure we're putting on the ball on the perimeter, despite racking up fouls, and giving up too many free throws, at times.  To me, that seems to be something he's digging in on, and just forcing, because he probably wants that to become a hallmark of his IU program.  I love that, as frustrating as the fouling has been, at times.  But... an example of him adjusting now that we're in B10 season, was the modified 2-3 zone he played for some minutes against Washington.  That move changed the flow and dynamic of that game.  

Some other signs of growth... Tayton seems to be playing much more under control the last handful of games.  Something's off with Tucker, and Conor has stepped up and filled that void... coaching?  Gotta think at least a little bit.  Tucker hasn't forced the issue, and has been pretty good in other areas to help us win.  Again, coaching?  Maybe, maybe not.  But adjustments, by someone, have been made.  He's done a pretty good job managing Bailey and Alexis minutes.  Essentially whoever is playing better, whoever is the better matchup.  Its been pretty rare that they both play a lot of minutes, and both have good output games, stats wise.  I see that as both a challenge for CDD to get them to both play well, but also give him kudos for not just sticking them with the same roles, and rolling with the results (that's largely what Woodson did).  And finally, I think since the Minnesota game, he's gradually improved how consistent we are with our ball and player movement.  That's also something I see as his biggest challenge, because I don't think he's come far enough on that effort, for us to compete with the top 2-3 teams in the conference.  But it is getting better.

If that one thing continues to get better, I think we're very comfortably an NCAA tournament team.. maybe a 2nd weekend level team.  If it doesn't, I see a battle on the bubble.  Which would be a big disappointment.  

Right now... 12-3, 3-1, has a road B10 win under his belt, Top 30 in both offense and defense efficiency, top 25 overall... Solid start.  What he does to help the team improve from here, or not, will finish up the story of his first year.

My issue with you isn't as much of the substance behind the statements you're making... its comments like "lipstick on a pig"...  I don't believe IU is a "pig".  I get the point of what you're saying, they're not as good as I make them out to be... or not as good as the hopes that I have for them to be.  But I honestly think I'm more than a little bit more balanced with my posts, than you are.  I've been on here venting about them plenty.  Maybe you've missed those posts?  And maybe I've missed the ones where you were positive about this team.  Because there are, obviously, positive things happening.  At this point in the season, its one of the best teams we've had in a decade.  And it IS the most fun team to watch and follow, for me anyway, since the 16 team.  I do get the concerns.  I list them out routinely.  Here they are again... Consistency in effort and focus, showing itself in ball and player movement.  Bailey's inconsistencies with toughness in the paint.  Allowing other teams, at times, to dictate physicality.  That one ties in with my first concern, but its a specific aspect of it that a team built like Indiana can't ever take its focus away from.  If we're not dictating aggression and physicality, we're not naturally gifted enough to not get exposed by those things.  The Louisville game is a perfect example of this... the first 10 minutes, we allowed them to dictate the speed, physicality...everything.  Whatever changed, changed dramatically, and we became the aggressor the rest of that game, basically... and we controlled long portions of the rest of that game.

I don't know how the next few weeks are going to go.  We have some REALLY difficult games.  Games that obviously top 10 teams wouldn't likely win, in some cases.  Maybe we do go one and whatever over that stretch?  I'll be on here venting if we do, I'm sure.  But maybe he keeps improving them?  Maybe Tucker gets back whatever he's been missing, and has some big games again?  This team is closer to Purdue than the Rob Phinisee from the corner team was... so maybe we play well and beat those A-holes at home?  Saying things like that "can't happen"... it's like nails on a chalk board, for me.  And I'm surprised as someone that played soccer at IU, that you have that mentality.  You, of all people, should know what a grind a college sports season is.  And how much opportunity for improvement there is within a season.  IU has that same opportunity.  And its exciting, to me, that we're already pretty good.

 

We are 3-1 but the three wins are against teams that are a combined 1-11 in big ten play. Woodson started out 4-1 last year vs the bad teams and then just tanked when he had to start playing the better teams. So for me its hard to get too excited until I see what we can do againt teams like Purdue and Michigan State on Tuesday.  I don't know how good Nebraska really is since I have not seen them play but that is a home game you have to win imo.

 

 

thats perspective!  And that's all I'm getting at as well ... the record doesn't mean shit at this point 

 


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Posted : 01/09/2026 1:09 pm
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@hoosiers94 IU isn't a B10 contender, or a FF level team, right now.  They're inconsistent in areas that are very frustrating, to me.  Effort and focus namely.  They stop moving the ball and cutting and screening off the ball, for too long of stretches.  They allow teams to dictate physicality and pace, at times.  CDD should have had a defensive and rebounding post anchor as a "have to" in his team building process.  Tucker is struggling right now in some ways.  Reed is soft in the paint too often.  Both Reed and Sam have weak hands.

All of those things are true.  I've posted on those subjects a fair bit, since the Incarnate Word game...when its happened and been relevant to point it out.  But absent posting the positive things that ARE happening.  It would make me sound whiny and overly negative, while the output and play the team is actually putting on the court, is pretty good.  If the first paragraph was an accurate indication of what IU basketball was, right now.  We wouldn't be 12-3, 3-1, and be a top 25 metrics team.  We'd be like Oregon, or Washington, or UCLA, or Northwestern, or Clemson, or Ole Miss...   


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Posted : 01/09/2026 1:27 pm
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Posted by: @iunorth

@hoosiers94 IU isn't a B10 contender, or a FF level team, right now.  They're inconsistent in areas that are very frustrating, to me.  Effort and focus namely.  They stop moving the ball and cutting and screening off the ball, for too long of stretches.  They allow teams to dictate physicality and pace, at times.  CDD should have had a defensive and rebounding post anchor as a "have to" in his team building process.  Tucker is struggling right now in some ways.  Reed is soft in the paint too often.  Both Reed and Sam have weak hands.

All of those things are true.  I've posted on those subjects a fair bit, since the Incarnate Word game...when its happened and been relevant to point it out.  But absent posting the positive things that ARE happening.  It would make me sound whiny and overly negative, while the output and play the team is actually putting on the court, is pretty good.  If the first paragraph was an accurate indication of what IU basketball was, right now.  We wouldn't be 12-3, 3-1, and be a top 25 metrics team.  We'd be like Oregon, or Washington, or UCLA, or Northwestern, or Clemson, or Ole Miss...   

 

you might be right. We will know in about 2-3 weeks.  I think we are overrated. My eye test doesn't rank them as high.  Mental strength of the players and coaches aren't accounted for in those rankings.  It's easy to perform when you're not tested.  Once the adversity hits is when it matters.  And the 3 times we've seen real adversity .. not just pockets .,, we have faltered. Can they overcome it... shit anything is possible but is it likely.  Thats the crux of the issue here.  

and I agree with you about a post anchor on the roster.  We aren't even coaching the team... so why is it our guru of a coach didn't know that.  Which is why I question his ceiling. If he can't even accurately determine what kind of "must have " players he needs ,, doesn't that cause you some pause ?

 

 


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Posted : 01/09/2026 1:38 pm
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And I can tell you love and understand basketball. I do too.  I take your perspectives into account.  Most of them I see the same thing.  We aren't to far off from a schematic position I'm seeing weaknesses that are more mental , coaching or just plain physical limitations that will come back to haunt us.  This bothers me from a first year head coach and a roster that was paid for... if he can't demand the control and effort etc in his first year... don't see it getting any better next year 


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Posted : 01/09/2026 1:45 pm
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Posted by: @hoosiers94

Posted by: @iunorth

@hoosiers94 IU isn't a B10 contender, or a FF level team, right now.  They're inconsistent in areas that are very frustrating, to me.  Effort and focus namely.  They stop moving the ball and cutting and screening off the ball, for too long of stretches.  They allow teams to dictate physicality and pace, at times.  CDD should have had a defensive and rebounding post anchor as a "have to" in his team building process.  Tucker is struggling right now in some ways.  Reed is soft in the paint too often.  Both Reed and Sam have weak hands.

All of those things are true.  I've posted on those subjects a fair bit, since the Incarnate Word game...when its happened and been relevant to point it out.  But absent posting the positive things that ARE happening.  It would make me sound whiny and overly negative, while the output and play the team is actually putting on the court, is pretty good.  If the first paragraph was an accurate indication of what IU basketball was, right now.  We wouldn't be 12-3, 3-1, and be a top 25 metrics team.  We'd be like Oregon, or Washington, or UCLA, or Northwestern, or Clemson, or Ole Miss...   

 

you might be right. We will know in about 2-3 weeks.  I think we are overrated. My eye test doesn't rank them as high.  Mental strength of the players and coaches aren't accounted for in those rankings.  It's easy to perform when you're not tested.  Once the adversity hits is when it matters.  And the 3 times we've seen real adversity .. not just pockets .,, we have faltered. Can they overcome it... shit anything is possible but is it likely.  Thats the crux of the issue here.  

and I agree with you about a post anchor on the roster.  We aren't even coaching the team... so why is it our guru of a coach didn't know that.  Which is why I question his ceiling. If he can't even accurately determine what kind of "must have " players he needs ,, doesn't that cause you some pause ?

 

 

The record means nothing to me right now until we play and beat  good teams. I have seen this early hype play out too many teams with the IU teams of the last ten years when you beat bad teams early and people think we are way better than we are. 

I just looked Woodson was 13-3 and 4-1 in the big ten to start last year. He than went on to  lose 8 of the next 10 when the schedule got harder. Beating Maryland and Penn State is just not impressive to me. Go beat Nebraska , Michigan State, and Purdue and that will prove something. But if they can only beat the bottom feeders they are not making the tourney

 


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Matt Nover and Ross Hales? Blast from the past.

This team could use a couple like that. Man, a dawg like Matt Nover would solve some issues.


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Posted by: @openwheel

Matt Nover and Ross Hales? Blast from the past.

This team could use a couple like that. Man, a dawg like Matt Nover would solve some issues.

 

sure is isn't it.  He definitely would!  

 


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Posted by: @hoosiers94

Posted by: @openwheel

Matt Nover and Ross Hales? Blast from the past.

This team could use a couple like that. Man, a dawg like Matt Nover would solve some issues.

 

sure is isn't it.  He definitely would!  

 

 

haven't spoken to him in a while.  Nover that is. Grew up playing against him and then shortly after we both graduated from IU we were investors in the Buffalouies in Valpo together with several others. Lost track of him when he was overseas. No smartphones back then. 

I grew up close family friends with Ross' cousins. So hung out with him quite a bit growing up as well. 


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@arioznahoosier4554 

"We are 3-1 but the three wins are against teams that are a combined 1-11 in big ten play. Woodson started out 4-1 last year vs the bad teams and then just tanked when he had to start playing the better teams. So for me it's hard to get too excited until I see what we can do againt teams like Purdue and Michigan State on Tuesday.  I don't know how good Nebraska really is since I have not seen them play but that is a home game you have to win imo."

 

agree, we are going to need to find some Q1 wins somewhere

nebraska at home seems like a real good place to start 

 

 


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