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TJ Inman's avatar
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Full article on the home page...IU will host eight home games with highlights including Kansas State on November 25. Of course, they have a trio of very tough games away from home with Marquette in Chicago, Louisville at Gainbridge Fieldhouse in Indianapolis and Kentucky at Rupp Arena on December 13.


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Topic starter Posted : 07/01/2025 9:21 am
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IUNorth
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Great marquee matchups!  Wonder what types of lower level teams most of those home games are?  Hopefully not many that are 300+ in all the metrics.  


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Posted : 07/01/2025 9:35 am
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@iunorth a good question...I started looking that up this morning. Posting results on that here in a minute.


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Topic starter Posted : 07/01/2025 10:30 am
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It's impossible to accurately project the eventual NET or KenPom or T-Rank for these teams with so much roster churn but we have to work with the data we currently have.

IU's non-conference opponents are projected as follows by Bart Torvik:

Alabama A&M - 309

Marquette (in Chicago) - 49 (I'd say this ends up a Quad One on Selection Sunday)

Milwaukee - 238 

Incarnate Word - 197 

Lindenwood - 294

Kansas State - 47 (possibly a Q1 given how tough the Big 12 is but likely a Q2)

Bethune-Cookman - 185

Louisville (in Indianapolis) - 16 (almost certainly a Q1)

at Kentucky - 13 (Q1)

Chicago State - 323 (almost certainly a Q4)

Siena - 157

In total, there are only two games that are almost certainly going to be 300+ opponents: Alabama A&M and Chicago State. Marquette, Louisville, Kansas State and Kentucky should all end up top 50 and beneficial for the resume. Incarnate Word, Bethune-Cookman and Siena all have the potential to win their leagues and could be mildly beneficial and certainly won't anchor IU's numbers unless they lose to them. Lindenwood, Alabama A&M and Chicago State are games you'd prefer to see a bit stronger opposition but it won't matter given the toughness of the rest of the non-con plus the Big Ten for 20 games. 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/01/2025 10:40 am
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I love that we're playing Incarnate Word.  That's a name that always make me think of east coast point shaving scandals in the 50s.  I know it doesn't make sense since they're in Texas and have only been around since the 80s, but that's the vibe I get.


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Posted by: @hooky

I love that we're playing Incarnate Word.  That's a name that always make me think of east coast point shaving scandals in the 50s.  I know it doesn't make sense since they're in Texas and have only been around since the 80s, but that's the vibe I get.

That vibe still works with the Texas ties. Look at SMU and the death sentence they were given back in '87 for recruiting and payment violations. No football in '87 and the school self-imposed foregoing the '88 season as well. Destroyed their program for decades. Hmmmmm...

 


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Posted : 07/01/2025 12:03 pm
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@hooky I believe Incarnate Word was Grant Gelon's only offer before Crean offered him.


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Posted : 07/01/2025 12:04 pm
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Posted by: @tjinman1987

It's impossible to accurately project the eventual NET or KenPom or T-Rank for these teams with so much roster churn but we have to work with the data we currently have.

IU's non-conference opponents are projected as follows by Bart Torvik:

Alabama A&M - 309

Marquette (in Chicago) - 49 (I'd say this ends up a Quad One on Selection Sunday)

Milwaukee - 238 

Incarnate Word - 197 

Lindenwood - 294

Kansas State - 47 (possibly a Q1 given how tough the Big 12 is but likely a Q2)

Bethune-Cookman - 185

Louisville (in Indianapolis) - 16 (almost certainly a Q1)

at Kentucky - 13 (Q1)

Chicago State - 323 (almost certainly a Q4)

Siena - 157

In total, there are only two games that are almost certainly going to be 300+ opponents: Alabama A&M and Chicago State. Marquette, Louisville, Kansas State and Kentucky should all end up top 50 and beneficial for the resume. Incarnate Word, Bethune-Cookman and Siena all have the potential to win their leagues and could be mildly beneficial and certainly won't anchor IU's numbers unless they lose to them. Lindenwood, Alabama A&M and Chicago State are games you'd prefer to see a bit stronger opposition but it won't matter given the toughness of the rest of the non-con plus the Big Ten for 20 games. 

 

We had a grand total of what, 2 top 60ish non-con games last year (KenPom), both of which were massacre losses.

Definitely a big step in the right direction.

 


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Posted : 07/01/2025 12:28 pm
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@tjinman1987 thanks for the good work


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Posted : 07/01/2025 1:29 pm
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Posted by: @ams66

@hooky I believe Incarnate Word was Grant Gelon's only offer before Crean offered him.

Why isn't that a surprise?  I would have also believed Tim Priller.

 


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Posted : 07/01/2025 2:03 pm
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Posted by: @hooky

Posted by: @ams66

@hooky I believe Incarnate Word was Grant Gelon's only offer before Crean offered him.

Why isn't that a surprise?  I would have also believed Tim Priller.

That might be right, maybe it was Priller I was thinking of.

 


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Posted : 07/01/2025 2:29 pm
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@hooky It was Priller.


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Posted : 07/01/2025 2:29 pm
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@hooky It was Priller.

Correct.  I don't think Gelon had any other offers.  That maybe should have been a clue Tom.

 


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Posted : 07/01/2025 3:48 pm
IUNorth
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@tjinman1987 

thank you for this.  Solid overall first year Jon conference schedule Id say.  


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Posted : 07/01/2025 7:19 pm
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@ams66 Think it was priller


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