As I was reading the polls today, I can't help but see the $$ influence, specifically the SEC with three three-loss teams in top 25 but no B1G three loss teams in. Think Texas is better than Michigan? rated higher. Tenn, Mizzou, Texas all with three losses and still in top 25. Homerville. Thoughts? Go Hoosiers!
As I was reading the polls today, I can't help but see the $$ influence, specifically the SEC with three three-loss teams in top 25 but no B1G three loss teams in. Think Texas is better than Michigan? rated higher. Tenn, Mizzou, Texas all with three losses and still in top 25. Homerville. Thoughts? Go Hoosiers!
There's only one poll that matters and it hasn't been updated yet for this week.
But I do think merely counting losses is a bad way to measure teams. I hate Texas. Grew up in Houston and was an Aggie fan as a kid, but you can't just automatically exclude Texas for having 3 losses. Especially if they beat A&M.
Tennessee. They're out of the playoff, but I'm not sure a team who lost to Bama, UGA and OU should be excluded from the Top 25 of the CFP just because of those 3 losses. I do feel the same way about Iowa, so I will be interested to see if the committee does the right thing (like they did last week) and doesn't dock Iowa much for a loss to USC.
As I was reading the polls today, I can't help but see the $$ influence, specifically the SEC with three three-loss teams in top 25 but no B1G three loss teams in. Think Texas is better than Michigan? rated higher. Tenn, Mizzou, Texas all with three losses and still in top 25. Homerville. Thoughts? Go Hoosiers!
There's only one poll that matters and it hasn't been updated yet for this week.
But I do think merely counting losses is a bad way to measure teams. I hate Texas. Grew up in Houston and was an Aggie fan as a kid, but you can't just automatically exclude Texas for having 3 losses. Especially if they beat A&M.
Tennessee. They're out of the playoff, but I'm not sure a team who lost to Bama, UGA and OU should be excluded from the Top 25 of the CFP just because of those 3 losses. I do feel the same way about Iowa, so I will be interested to see if the committee does the right thing (like they did last week) and doesn't dock Iowa much for a loss to USC.
USC is gonna screw around and beat Oregon and neither one will make the playoff.
On the subject of bias in the media based on alignment, can we have a Portnoy free Saturday on Big Noon? That guy is a jag
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@hooky Agree. Portnoy is awful on Big Noon. His ongoing UM/OSU bit sucks, and if he doesn’t fall back to that he’s just crass and unlikable. Hopefully they drop him next year, because otherwise it’s a pretty good show with high end production and I like when they come to IU.
As I was reading the polls today, I can't help but see the $$ influence, specifically the SEC with three three-loss teams in top 25 but no B1G three loss teams in. Think Texas is better than Michigan? rated higher. Tenn, Mizzou, Texas all with three losses and still in top 25. Homerville. Thoughts? Go Hoosiers!
There's only one poll that matters and it hasn't been updated yet for this week.
But I do think merely counting losses is a bad way to measure teams. I hate Texas. Grew up in Houston and was an Aggie fan as a kid, but you can't just automatically exclude Texas for having 3 losses. Especially if they beat A&M.
Tennessee. They're out of the playoff, but I'm not sure a team who lost to Bama, UGA and OU should be excluded from the Top 25 of the CFP just because of those 3 losses. I do feel the same way about Iowa, so I will be interested to see if the committee does the right thing (like they did last week) and doesn't dock Iowa much for a loss to USC.
Yea, you can't just count losses to determine how good a team really is. But determining how good teams are by how they fare against ranked teams is also skewed by the mere fact that ranking teams isn't an exact science.
Preseason rankings put 10 SEC teams in the top 25 vs 6 for the Big Ten. They had no on-field evidence for the rankings. It's all opinions based on how teams did last year with some adjustment based on how they feel the talent changed. And arguably some bias on program prestige.
Now if over half the conference is ranked to start the season, it makes it much harder to drop because a loss to a ranked team isn't that bad. Whereas a win vs a ranked team is a big boost. Advantage SEC and we all know they like to brag about what a tough schedule they have due to all the ranked teams in the conference.
Big Ten is 1-2 vs the SEC in the only 3 games that have been played between the conferences this year. Last year, SEC was 3-1 during the regular season but in bowls/playoffs, were 1-5 against the Big Ten (4-6 overall).
Cross-conference games are the only way to determine which conference is actually better. Rankings don't mean crap because 75% of the games are played against other teams in the exact same conference with most of the rest being cupcakes. SEC has done better during the regular season still (maybe a sign that they are deeper) but Big Ten dominated in the postseason last year (maybe means Big Ten is better at the top). But this whole load of crap that the Big Ten is just cupcakes and SEC is the cream of the crop is not proven at all.
ESPN (who has a deal with SEC) is likely the man behind the curtain in trying to portray the illusion of dominance by the SEC but facts just don't back it up. Now that NIL has evened the playing field among the power 2 and Nick Saban is gone, there is no dominance.
As I was reading the polls today, I can't help but see the $$ influence, specifically the SEC with three three-loss teams in top 25 but no B1G three loss teams in. Think Texas is better than Michigan? rated higher. Tenn, Mizzou, Texas all with three losses and still in top 25. Homerville. Thoughts? Go Hoosiers!
There's only one poll that matters and it hasn't been updated yet for this week.
But I do think merely counting losses is a bad way to measure teams. I hate Texas. Grew up in Houston and was an Aggie fan as a kid, but you can't just automatically exclude Texas for having 3 losses. Especially if they beat A&M.
Tennessee. They're out of the playoff, but I'm not sure a team who lost to Bama, UGA and OU should be excluded from the Top 25 of the CFP just because of those 3 losses. I do feel the same way about Iowa, so I will be interested to see if the committee does the right thing (like they did last week) and doesn't dock Iowa much for a loss to USC.
Yea, you can't just count losses to determine how good a team really is. But determining how good teams are by how they fare against ranked teams is also skewed by the mere fact that ranking teams isn't an exact science.
Preseason rankings put 10 SEC teams in the top 25 vs 6 for the Big Ten. They had no on-field evidence for the rankings. It's all opinions based on how teams did last year with some adjustment based on how they feel the talent changed. And arguably some bias on program prestige.
Now if over half the conference is ranked to start the season, it makes it much harder to drop because a loss to a ranked team isn't that bad. Whereas a win vs a ranked team is a big boost. Advantage SEC and we all know they like to brag about what a tough schedule they have due to all the ranked teams in the conference.
Big Ten is 1-2 vs the SEC in the only 3 games that have been played between the conferences this year. Last year, SEC was 3-1 during the regular season but in bowls/playoffs, were 1-5 against the Big Ten (4-6 overall).
Cross-conference games are the only way to determine which conference is actually better. Rankings don't mean crap because 75% of the games are played against other teams in the exact same conference with most of the rest being cupcakes. SEC has done better during the regular season still (maybe a sign that they are deeper) but Big Ten dominated in the postseason last year (maybe means Big Ten is better at the top). But this whole load of crap that the Big Ten is just cupcakes and SEC is the cream of the crop is not proven at all.
ESPN (who has a deal with SEC) is likely the man behind the curtain in trying to portray the illusion of dominance by the SEC but facts just don't back it up. Now that NIL has evened the playing field among the power 2 and Nick Saban is gone, there is no dominance.
Again, there's only one poll that matters and it doesn't start until November. We can all get worked up (hand raised) about that stuff in September and October, but no one is getting any credit NOW for beating South Cackalacky, LSU, Clemson because those teams have proven to be fraudulent as it pertains to the national picture. It mostly works itself out.
As I was reading the polls today, I can't help but see the $$ influence, specifically the SEC with three three-loss teams in top 25 but no B1G three loss teams in. Think Texas is better than Michigan? rated higher. Tenn, Mizzou, Texas all with three losses and still in top 25. Homerville. Thoughts? Go Hoosiers!
There's only one poll that matters and it hasn't been updated yet for this week.
But I do think merely counting losses is a bad way to measure teams. I hate Texas. Grew up in Houston and was an Aggie fan as a kid, but you can't just automatically exclude Texas for having 3 losses. Especially if they beat A&M.
Tennessee. They're out of the playoff, but I'm not sure a team who lost to Bama, UGA and OU should be excluded from the Top 25 of the CFP just because of those 3 losses. I do feel the same way about Iowa, so I will be interested to see if the committee does the right thing (like they did last week) and doesn't dock Iowa much for a loss to USC.
Yea, you can't just count losses to determine how good a team really is. But determining how good teams are by how they fare against ranked teams is also skewed by the mere fact that ranking teams isn't an exact science.
Preseason rankings put 10 SEC teams in the top 25 vs 6 for the Big Ten. They had no on-field evidence for the rankings. It's all opinions based on how teams did last year with some adjustment based on how they feel the talent changed. And arguably some bias on program prestige.
Now if over half the conference is ranked to start the season, it makes it much harder to drop because a loss to a ranked team isn't that bad. Whereas a win vs a ranked team is a big boost. Advantage SEC and we all know they like to brag about what a tough schedule they have due to all the ranked teams in the conference.
Big Ten is 1-2 vs the SEC in the only 3 games that have been played between the conferences this year. Last year, SEC was 3-1 during the regular season but in bowls/playoffs, were 1-5 against the Big Ten (4-6 overall).
Cross-conference games are the only way to determine which conference is actually better. Rankings don't mean crap because 75% of the games are played against other teams in the exact same conference with most of the rest being cupcakes. SEC has done better during the regular season still (maybe a sign that they are deeper) but Big Ten dominated in the postseason last year (maybe means Big Ten is better at the top). But this whole load of crap that the Big Ten is just cupcakes and SEC is the cream of the crop is not proven at all.
ESPN (who has a deal with SEC) is likely the man behind the curtain in trying to portray the illusion of dominance by the SEC but facts just don't back it up. Now that NIL has evened the playing field among the power 2 and Nick Saban is gone, there is no dominance.
Again, there's only one poll that matters and it doesn't start until November. We can all get worked up (hand raised) about that stuff in September and October, but no one is getting any credit NOW for beating South Cackalacky, LSU, Clemson because those teams have proven to be fraudulent as it pertains to the national picture. It mostly works itself out.
Every subsequent AP poll is based on the one before it...starting with the preseason poll.
And it seems apparent that the poll that matters from the playoff committee uses eye tests and feelings as well. So I wouldn't be surprised if the biased AP poll influences the important poll
Every subsequent AP poll is based on the one before it…starting with the preseason poll.
And it seems apparent that the poll that matters from the playoff committee uses eye tests and feelings as well. So I wouldn’t be surprised if the biased AP poll influences the important poll
Those early AP Polls set the narrative for the first half of the year. Maddening that they get it so wrong early, but that still carries weight.
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I see no evidence that it definitively does. We were ranked outside of the top 20 to start the year and have leapfrogged many teams that were ahead of us that are also having excellent years. Same with Texas Tech. 23 to start the year, but are comfortably in the playoff now. A&M was 19.
As a pregame show alternative, check out CBSSports. Their show is no BS, just football talk
As a pregame show alternative, check out CBSSports. Their show is no BS, just football talk
I love the show. Found it too.
As I was reading the polls today, I can't help but see the $$ influence, specifically the SEC with three three-loss teams in top 25 but no B1G three loss teams in. Think Texas is better than Michigan? rated higher. Tenn, Mizzou, Texas all with three losses and still in top 25. Homerville. Thoughts? Go Hoosiers!
ABC/ESPN/Disney has the SEC contract AND broadcast rights to the CFP so, sure, there's going to be an SEC bias. That said, anyone who follows college football and has an ounce of objectivity knows that the Big Ten is the best football conference in America. The last two national champions are from the B1G, and the B1G destroyed the SEC in the postseason last year. I fully expect a repeat this December/January.
As a pregame show alternative, check out CBSSports. Their show is no BS, just football talk
I watch the recap show religiously. I'll have to check out the pregame.
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I seem to remember the College Football Gameday crew doing recaps and highlights throughout the day on ESPN in the 90s and 00s. Am I imagining that? Why'd they stop? I'd love to see some of these guys' reactions to IU blowout wins the last couple of years.As a pregame show alternative, check out CBSSports. Their show is no BS, just football talk
I watch the recap show religiously. I'll have to check out the pregame.
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