I’ve spent the last hour doing a deep dive on MIchigan board reading about the Moore stuff. But there are lots of rumors that they have already been talking to DeBoer and he is interested. No idea if this is true, but it would certainly make the coaching carousel this cycle even crazier. And possibly impact our Rose Bowl game. Oh and MIchigan AD is likely getting fired tomorrow. He’s been covering for Moore for months.
The Coaching Carousel thread has most of this discussion.
Earlier this week I watched a 'Bama scribe on either FOX or ESPN (can't remember) - and no, it wasn't Finebaum - and he quoted DeBoer saying, and I paraphrase,
"... the SEC is the toughest conference in the country, from top to bottom...."
So, if DeBoer really feels that way why would he choose to go backward, make basically the same money (give or take a couple million), yet still have the same degree of pressure to win every game?.... I don't see him leaving to go to Michigan but I feel that way mostly because Michigan football has turned into a mess that has lasted longer than the Springfield tire-fire...
@jsenleo - Unrelated to the topic here, SEC people saying this "SEC is the best" logic cracks me up. There isn't another team in the nation that played the #1, #2 and #9 teams in the nation. Even if you went current rankings, the #2, #5 and #21 ranked teams...none of them at home, would be a vastly harder schedule than any SEC schedule. I truly hope Iowa takes down Vandy and that quiets these fools.
@jsenleo - Unrelated to the topic here, SEC people saying this "SEC is the best" logic cracks me up. There isn't another team in the nation that played the #1, #2 and #9 teams in the nation. Even if you went current rankings, the #2, #5 and #21 ranked teams...none of them at home, would be a vastly harder schedule than any SEC schedule. I truly hope Iowa takes down Vandy and that quiets these fools.
They’re talking about top to bottom strength of the entire conference, not the top teams. Most people who follow college football agree with that, even as they agree that our rise to the top is one of the great all time stories in the sport.
@jsenleo - Unrelated to the topic here, SEC people saying this "SEC is the best" logic cracks me up. There isn't another team in the nation that played the #1, #2 and #9 teams in the nation. Even if you went current rankings, the #2, #5 and #21 ranked teams...none of them at home, would be a vastly harder schedule than any SEC schedule. I truly hope Iowa takes down Vandy and that quiets these fools.
They’re talking about top to bottom strength of the entire conference, not the top teams. Most people who follow college football agree with that, even as they agree that our rise to the top is one of the great all time stories in the sport.
I disagree. This logic is used because teams like Missouri, South Carolina, Auburn, LSU, and Florida, were all ranked at one point and people saw them as great teams. They never were great teams. Its misguided logic that keeps being proven to be invalid in the bowl season when the SEC faces the B1G. Hence last year everyone thought 3 loss teams South Carolina and Alabama should've been in the CFP over Indiana, then they both lost to Illinois and Michigan respectively, USC beat Texas A&M, while Tennessee was down 40 at half time to OSU. Hell, #19 Missouri needed 2 late field goals to beat unranked Iowa by 3. Their entire conference is overrated.
... why would he choose to go backward, make basically the same money (give or take a couple million), yet still have the same degree of pressure to win every game?....
Alabama missing the playoffs last year put him on the hot seat with their whiny super-entitled fan base. 3 losses this year didn't help his status much, and a loss to OU might get him canned. Granted, UM also has a whiny super-entitled fan base.
"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451
@jsenleo - Unrelated to the topic here, SEC people saying this "SEC is the best" logic cracks me up. There isn't another team in the nation that played the #1, #2 and #9 teams in the nation. Even if you went current rankings, the #2, #5 and #21 ranked teams...none of them at home, would be a vastly harder schedule than any SEC schedule. I truly hope Iowa takes down Vandy and that quiets these fools.
They’re talking about top to bottom strength of the entire conference, not the top teams. Most people who follow college football agree with that, even as they agree that our rise to the top is one of the great all time stories in the sport.
I disagree. This logic is used because teams like Missouri, South Carolina, Auburn, LSU, and Florida, were all ranked at one point and people saw them as great teams. They never were great teams. Its misguided logic that keeps being proven to be invalid in the bowl season when the SEC faces the B1G. Hence last year everyone thought 3 loss teams South Carolina and Alabama should've been in the CFP over Indiana, then they both lost to Illinois and Michigan respectively, while Tennessee was down 40 at half time to OSU. Hell, #19 Missouri needed 2 late field goals to beat unranked Iowa by 3. Their entire conference is overrated.
Not sure any of those schools were branded as “great” any more than USC, Illinois, Penn State and Michigan were branded “great”. As for the bowl results from one year, that was then, and it was one year out of many. It’s a fun debate, but it’s hardly conclusive that the Big Ten is above the SEC, let alone their top to bottom equal. Way too much history that simply says they’ve been better. Hope you’re right and we run the table with them in the next few weeks.
@yothn Yep. Disney/ABC/ESPN and the SEC shills do a great job of peddling the false narrative that the SEC is the best football conference. They were for years; they're not anymore. We'll see further evidence of that in the postseason.
I do not disagree that (top to bottom) the SEC may be the strongest conference. However, I do agree that many SEC teams are over rated year in and year out. Mainly, based on history and name brand. Examples this year are Tenn and S. Carolina; both very bad teams that still show up under "best wins" if you check out the resume' for some of the upper SEC teams. Tenn hasn't beaten one single team more than one game above .500 in conference. Tenn has a long history of very good teams; yet that is not a reason to assume anyone who defeats them in any given year has accomplished an amazing feat. Tenn = Northwestern/NEB this season at best.
@jackskip23 - Florida and USC are comparable? I'm not sure I understand the logic you were trying to utilize. My point is they tried to say Florida was a top 15 team and USC was not ranked. USC took all year and proved they belonged in the top 20 while Florida took all year proving it was a bottom feeder program. Illinois and South Carolina are not equals. This is my whole point, people see the rankings and think there are lots of good teams in the SEC. There simply isn't. Penn State is ranked 13th in the B1G. Auburn is ranked 13th in the SEC. Give me Penn State today, tomorrow and the next day. Its a bogus narrative that the national rankings have left people to believe.
Even look at Texas A&M. Did they beat anyone in the top half of the SEC?
@yothn It will be very gratifying if the B10 whips the SEC again in bowl games. I feel like that should humble the SEC and their supporters, but it didn't last year.
@jsenleo you don't understand why someone would want to go to a conference that isn't quite as strong, and make a couple million more? And, despite how rabid UM fans are, it's still not the intensity level of AL, and you are the dominant recruiting school in a state that's twice as large. I see a lot of advantages to being the HC at UM vs Bama.
Even look at Texas A&M. Did they beat anyone in the top half of the SEC?
This was the narrative used against us last year. That narrative was wrong.
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