@red-hornet I’m not sure Ohio State is scared about playing that game. They get rid of CCGs because it’s needless. They actually cited IU and Mendoza getting smoked on the first play.
Ill be really excited about the weekly Top 50 poll updates. So we can see everybody still in the hunt for a berth.@openwheel I don’t see how this is a give everyone a ribbon thing. There are 136ish FBS teams it’s less than 20% make a playoff
Just have a big 10 / sec challenge at the beginning of the year. Would be tough to hype the losers
@hurryinghoosiers I want things taken out of the hands of a committee
AQ’s would be wonderful.
@tammany I need to put my thoughts on paper. But TJ and I are planning a pod on Tuesday about this.
Nice.
Also quarterfinals on campus would be amazing, but I’ll never get my wish there. College stadium atmospheres are the best and much better than NFL stadiums. Plus it puts more value on the seeding and it’s less travel.
Of course the Rose Bowl would be in the semis ideally. But this is all pie in the sky so I don’t know why I’m posting about it.
I think people are looking at it all wrong. We get the main focus is money, thats always the driving force but it can also be long-term self preservation as well.
The bowl games outside of the CFP have lost all meaning and value. What made college football so unique was the large postseason. That has been removed outside of the 12 teams who make the CFP. Way too many programs are excluded from a true postseason experience. Players skip bowl games, fans dont tune in and its just unsustainable. I don’t think they're expanding the playoff because ND was left out or people feel the cut line was too short. I think its about rejuvenating a larger postseason to keep more teams and fans engaged in the regular season.
In the old bowl format prior to CFP, yes there were the massive games that acted as a playoff game in the midseason, but you also diluted the losing teams value early and that decreased the value and importance of that teams later games. So it all balances out in the end and I never understood that argument.
@yothn The College Football regular season is the best is all sports and it's not even close. This is ALL about money. If the idea is to have "March Madness" for football, it won't work. The FCS has a good playoff format and that is one I keep going back to.
We have seen 3 bowl games shut down so far this cycle (Bahamas, LA Bowl and the Bowl formerly know as the Motor City Bowl). I believe you're correct that there will be more bowls shut down. There is a solution for opt outs and things like that, but it means people raking in money will have to take a hit to pay a performance bonus or roster bonus for players. The portal calendar plays into it too.
The 12-team Playoff is fine. It's the calendar that is the issue. Next year's CFB season goes until January 25th.
@thehoosierhuddle if you expand to 24 there will be a lot of 9-3, even some 8-4 teams getting in, who lost all their big regular season games.
I don’t like this move because it makes the regular season near meaningless. We knew we were going back to the playoffs after we beat Oregon last year. Games like that won’t exist in an expansion because you get a free pass.
The B1G could not be more wrong IMO. This move is slanted for the Michigan and Notre Dame’s of the world, who might go 9-3 or 10-2 with no major wins on the resume.
Look at how Illinois got treated in the final rankings (unranked) despite being 9-4 with quality wins over USC, Tennessee and Duke. That’s how they will treat us in a similar scenario
@hoosierdaddy not if you go AQs. Look I think the Playoff is too big right now, but they’re not contracting and conferences won’t contract either, so that goes into a lot of my thought process too.
@thehoosierhuddle I actually really like the current format. With NIL/Portal there are more like ~6-7 teams with genuine title aspirations each year opposed to 2-5 in the past, and with the AQ’s it rewards conference play and doesn’t gatekeep an undefeated G5 from having a chance to compete. I think it’s the right number
@hoosierdaddy it’s fine. 12 teams is not the issue. I can live with 12. The calendar is the issue. But you have money people running things in these conferences so they will look to make as much as possible and that means expanding
@yothn The College Football regular season is the best is all sports and it's not even close. This is ALL about money. If the idea is to have "March Madness" for football, it won't work. The FCS has a good playoff format and that is one I keep going back to.
We have seen 3 bowl games shut down so far this cycle (Bahamas, LA Bowl and the Bowl formerly know as the Motor City Bowl). I believe you're correct that there will be more bowls shut down. There is a solution for opt outs and things like that, but it means people raking in money will have to take a hit to pay a performance bonus or roster bonus for players. The portal calendar plays into it too.
The 12-team Playoff is fine. It's the calendar that is the issue. Next year's CFB season goes until January 25th.
No, I dont think its about it being March Madness. That comparison is thrown around but there's no correlation. Its about what I stated previously, which is to find a way to manufacture a semblance of the previous college football postseason experience, while maintaining a playoff.
Regular season in college football was always and remains big because there are only 12 regular season games. Therefore each game is guaranteed to have more impact compared to other sports.
The 12 team playoff is enough but if the option is to shut down all other bowls, because that will eventually happen, or have a 24 team playoff.....give me 24.
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